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New rule: actively avoid using "Khaleesi" on this wiki whenever possibleEdit

I've been listening to some complaints made by Elio and Linda on Westeros.org and I must agree. There are "TV-first viewers" and then there are "casual viewers who watch for the sex and violence, yet two god-damned seasons into the show, can't remember proper names of the major characters" -- major characters like Tyrion, Cersei, Arya, Sansa, Daenerys, they refer to by pet names as "the dwarf" or "Khaleesi".

I don't blame the TV show for using the word "Khaleesi" heavily in Season 1 - it's like calling her "my Queen" among the Dothraki, of course they would use it often. But there are those montage videos circling on youtube of every time Iain Glenn said "Khaleesi" in season 1.

But in short, casual fans latched onto the "Khaleesi" thing too much, to the point that the more stupid among them would call her "Khaleesi" as if it were here own name. Not just as a nickname, but *were not aware* that her real name was Daenerys.

Sort of in-universe, I enjoy how...once Barristan shows up, he wasn't in the Dothraki arc. He's the old knight who remembers what the Targaryens really are, emperors of the Seven Kingdoms, the royal blood. So when he comes to Daenerys, note that he always calls her "my Queen" -- and I think that intentionally or not this is a really major step in Daenerys' arc, that in Seasons 1 and 2 she was this nobody powerless girl on the edge of the world, I mean the *real* edge - the Dothraki Sea and Qarth are *way* out there, really far away from Westeros. Slaver's Bay is a bit closer, they're at least in contact with the Free Cities, who are in turn actively in contact with the Seven Kingdoms (i.e. the Second Sons come over from the Free Cities). So really, we see her growing away from the Dothraki arc and finding her place as the Queen of the ex-slaves in Slaver's Bay; with bigger dragons and a real army, she now starts to pose a serious risk to those holding the Iron Throne in the Seven Kingdoms.

At any rate, the new plan is to avoid calling Daenerys "Khaleesi" whenever possible, that is, other than in contexts used among the Dothraki. In Season 1 episode articles, she's Drogo's Khaleesi, so those should still call her "Khaleesi" -- her claim to the Iron Throne is just a word, Khaleesi is her real power. When she gets the dragons she slowly starts moving towards "Queen of the Seven Kingdoms". Season 2 episode articles are also kind of in flux, because her main followers are still just a small band of Dothraki (though I enjoy that we see the storylines start to cross over a little, as it takes over a year for news from Westeros to get to Qarth; the point when Daenerys finally hears that Robert is dead and the Seven Kingdoms are divided in the War of the Five Kings, so her initial pipe-dream of "take back the Seven Kingdoms" which Viserys beat into her during her childhood suddenly entered into the far realm of plausibility).

Starting in Season 3 episodes, however, we should stop calling her "Khaleesi" unless listing all of her titles. When listing her as a rival claimant to the throne on other pages, i.e. the list under "King of the Andals and the First Men", she should be just a straightforward "Queen". Queen sounds more impressive than Khaleesi. Moreover, a Khaleesi only has right to rule among the Dothraki. Actively using the term "Queen" emphasizes that she is the one who by right should be sitting on the Iron Throne. Thankfully even the show itself is leaning towards this.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:12, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Dorzalty "Unburnt" title missing from titles Edit

One of her title is "Dorzalty" translated as Unburnt. 

This is part of her legend, and thus important.

​All Hail the Dragon Queen!

71.223.85.99 21:30, October 7, 2013 (UTC)​ ​

This is a wiki devoted to the TV series, not the books. "Unburnt" hasn't been established in the TV series.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:53, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, it has. She was styled 'the Unburnt' by Missandei in Mhysa. Alexsau1991 (talk page) 20:36, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Correction: Free Cities and Slaver's Bay Edit

The article says, "​She has proven herself as a leader and a conqueror through her swift and (for the most part) merciful conquests of the Free Cities of Astapor and Yunkai." Astapor and Yunkai are in Slaver's Bay, which as I understand it is a separate area from the Free Cities. The wiki lists nine Free Cities: BraavosPentos,NorvosQohorLorathTyroshLysMyr and Volantis.

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