Is she not dead? Considering that Robert refers to her in the past tense? Patrick (talk) 19:02, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Not dead.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:56, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
Okay. In that case I assume Robert was trying to mock Lancel by suggesting that his mother wasn't Dorna, but an actual whore? In which case, should the quote on this page be changed or removed? Patrick (talk) 20:59, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't read too much into the quote.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:05, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, I'm not suggesting that Lancel's a bastard. What I meant was if the quote doesn't refer to Dorna should it not be on her page? Patrick (talk) 21:07, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
Dorna Swyft is alive and well in the books. Robert was just using a turn of phrase, and not pausing to think of his grammatical tense ("is" vs "was") and it isn't even worth noting.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:52, December 20, 2012 (UTC)