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Loras Heir Edit

I don´t think Loras is the heir of the House Tyrell, as he´s part of the Kingsguard. This is similar to how Jaime Lannister is not the heir of Casterly Rock, even though he´s holder than Tyrion, simply because he is a sworn King´s Guard.

Loras isn't a member of the Kingsguard yet. The TV series is playing with the idea of removing his two brothers Willas and Garlan, but is being intentionally vague because they don't want to writ them out. This may be fixed by making Willas and Garlan his younger brothers, but we will have to see.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 16:28, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

So Spake Martin - According to an interview with, Martin acknowledged the missing two Tyrell brothers but didn't confirm or deny if there is zero chance of them ever being in the TV series:

"So these changes have consequences. [Also], there's two missing Tyrell brothers in the show. [The television] Tyrell [family] has Margaery and Loras, and there's two older brothers, Willas and Garlan in the books. We have the biggest cast in television, so we can't afford to add more characters. I have the biggest cast in literature, I think."[1]

So sayeth the shepherd, so sayeth the flock.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 05:22, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Reminder: Update Family Tree Edit

I can't update it myself as it's locked and don't know how anyways.  The picture of Mace needs to be added and Joffrey needs to be added as a husband for Margaery.  TheUnknown285 (talk) 07:18, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Military Strength (Numbers)Edit

In the section on Tyrell armies, where exactly does the army count come from? Now, in the books I recall a few non-definite estimates, but nothing as specific as the number of armoured soldiers. As for the show, I can't remember any mentions as to the size of the army. Could someone tell me where exactly these numbers are coming from, and if so with a link, page number, video, etc?

Lord Morrigen (talk) 00:56, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

How do all of you pronounce "Tyrell"?Edit

Out of blind curiosity, how do all of you pronounce "Tyrell"? More specifically, those of you who read the books before the TV series started.

I always pronounced it "Tie-rell" because that's how the name of the "Tyrell Corporation" is pronounced in Blade Runner.

Then I sort of had to retrain my brain to say it as "Tih-rull" (rhymes with "squirrel") when this pronunciation guide came out.

Then as the Tyrells became more prominent, and particularly by Season 3, they just kept alternating between "Tih-rull" and "TIE-rell".

The truth is probably somewhere in between: people don't actually say "Tie" - "Rell", they say "Tyrell" really fast. It's a subtle difference in the middle of that spectrum. David Peterson pointed out that some old names like Tyrell (which is a real-life name) simply have no set pronunciation, with multiple alternate forms.

Of course, when I read the books the first time I pronounced "Targaryen" as "Tar-gar-yen", instead of "Targ-air-"E"-"N", but I've long since retrained myself to say it the latter way (much more so than with the Tyrells, where it's more of a subtle difference).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:36, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

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