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The character in his lines refers to the "Red God", obviously referring to death. Here the link to the Red God links to the Lord of Light. According to the books, the Faceless Men worship a death-deity, not identified with the Lord of Light. Even though the Red God can refer to both, I think it must be fixed. MoffRebusMy Talk 12:30, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's obvious. Here's a pretty good discussion:
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/16714/do-syrio-forel-jaqen-hghar-and-melisandre-all-follow-the-same-religion
Might contain spoilers! --Martell (talk) 13:17, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
As I understood it, Jaqen is referring to the Many-faced God of Death. If "Red God" means "Lord of Light", then he is simply referring to the Lord of Light as an aspect of the Many-Faced God of Death -- the Many-face God of Death is a syncretic religion, so this works out. I still think it was a mistake to call him "red god" in the TV show at all, as it would only confuse the audience.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:30, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
R'Hllor is part of a dualistic religion with darkness and death being the Great Other. Jaqen, being an assassin and bringer of death, he serves the Great Other. Arya has been influenced by this dualism, and the words of Jaqen and Syrio, pronounces that she sees death as a greater deity than the Brotherhoods' God of Light. Jaqen can say he serves the Red God and, understanding that it is a dualistic religion and that he can not say the name of the Great Other, mean he serves the Other opponent of Lord of Light. That makes sense as syncretic viewpoint also as the Great Other is the death aspect of the Many-Faced God from R'hllor religion.
Or the script writers screwed up like they did by putting French sleeves in... Alatari (talk) 01:19, April 10, 2014 (UTC)


R'hllor is the only "true" god in their dualistic belief system. He has dominion over life death. We really need to ask a writer about this to confirm it given that Jaqen is the only official worshiper of the Many-Faced God of Death cult to appear on the show. And check the subtitles, he said fringed sleeves.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:42, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

 The episode and the books are likely going to be in disagreement on the Jaqen's' true god' deity issue.   We'll see what they do.  It seems R'hllor is the one true god in the same way YHWH is the one true god but Satan is powerful enough to deceive and corrupt YHWH's work.  Alatari (talk) 05:37, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

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