I've moved the infobox image back to File:Kevan_Lannister.jpg from File:Kevan_Lannister.png. As I said when I first swapped them back earlier today I feel that the jpg is preferable because it shows the character with a neutral expression as opposed to having his mouth open in the png.--Opark 77 21:09, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
This page doesn't really need to be protected..
The Warden of the West?Edit
Does Kevan know his two sons are dead or is their fate still a mystery to basically everyone left alive at this point?
With Tywin dead and both his sons disinherited, I assume that Kevan is now Lord of Casterly Rock (where he mentioned he now lives in Season 5) and Warden of the West. I would imagine that Robb Stark went against Edmure Tully's advice in Season 3 after Rickard Karstark murdered Willem and Martyn Lannister, so he probably made their deaths public knowledge. The books mention Kevan having an infant daughter named Joanna. Lancel has renounced his birthright by joining the Faith Militant, so that would leave either some Lannister cousins or possibly younger brothers (assuming Gerion and Tygett are part of the TV canon).--Fenrir51 (talk) 10:11, June 29, 2015 (UTC)
Martyn and Willem Lannister Edit
Were those boys really Kevan's sons? Initially, Robb referred to them as "Tywin's father's brother's great-grandsons", which would actually make them his first cousins twice removed rather than his nephews. I know that later on when their bodies were presented to Robb, Edmure says they were Tywin's nephews but so far I have not yet seen any corroborating evidence that they were actually Kevan's sons. I saw that an anonymous user brought this up on Martyn's talk page two years ago and asked if there was any corroborating evidence that they were Kevan's sons but so far nothing. Am I missing something here? Is there any corroborating evidence that they were in fact Kevan's sons? Shaneymike (talk) 20:39, August 4, 2015 (UTC)
Don't repost this same message on half a dozen pages.
Technically, they were described as Tywin's "nephews" but no reference has been made specifying that they were Kevan's sons and Lancel's brothers, as in the novels. However, why assume they changed it until proven otherwise?
Moreover, the TV continuity has actually never established that Tywin even had other siblings besides Kevan.
So we'd have to "assume" into being another one of Tywin's other siblings from the novels in order to explain who Martyn and Willem are. Either way we're relying on book info that "they're specifically Kevan's sons".
It is odd that the Viewer's Guide wasn't updated with this information, probably because Kevan didn't appear in Season 3 when they appeared then died.
There is no reason to assume that "Tywin's nephews" could refer to their parent being anyone other than Kevan. There's no need to debate it further.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:33, August 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Okie dokie. Sorry about posting the same message over and over again. Even though you're the top contributor here, I didn't want to assume as to when I might hear back from you. If I want to talk to you specifically next time, I'll leave a message on you talk page only. Thanks.
Shaneymike (talk) 00:44, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Well squeaky wheel gets the oil, you should be proactive. Oh, don't message me first - message the relevant talk page and we'll usually notice it. If I don't in a few days then try to flag me down by direct messaging. I get so many messages on my talk page it's actually more cluttered on there. Whatever. Nothing to be sorry about.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:06, August 5, 2015 (UTC)