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Nature of the titleEdit

"Prince of Winterfell" being the title of the Heir of the King of the North would imply that the heir's seat is Winterfell - like Dragonstone is the seat of the Targaryen Heir - and that doesn't add up. Winterfell is the seat of the King himself, not the heir... the books mention that the heir was sometimes given the Wolf's Den, a castle that became part of White Harbour. In the case of Theon it is different because the seat of the King of the Iron Islands is Pyke, Theon is making Winterfell his personal seat... or making it the seat of the heir of the King of the Iron Islands at best.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:20, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Did Theon style himself as "Prince of Winterfell", or is it something that Yara called him sarcastically? That is, do we have a cited quote in which Theon claims such a title?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 05:38, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

We have the name of the episode, the sarcastic comment of Yara, the fact that Theon claims Winterfell as his seat - not a domain of his father - and the book.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 05:56, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
Well the episode name isn't in-universe and Yara is being admittedly sarcastic. A Prince could still be only the "Lord" of something. Wait, was he called "the Prince of Winterfell" in A Clash of Kings?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 06:03, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, in Theon V, and I quote the book: "I am the Prince of Winterfell!" Theon had shouted. "This is my seat, no man will drive me from it. No, nor woman either!"
Theon VI: ""Ser Rodrik Cassel and all the lords who have come to his call. I will not run from them. I took this castle and I mean to hold it, to live or die as Prince of Winterfell." and "Here are my terms. You have until evenfall to disperse. Those who swear fealty to Balon Greyjoy as their king and to myself as Prince of Winterfell will be confirmed in their rights and properties and suffer no harm. Those who defy us will be destroyed."
Thank God for *.pdf ... --Gonzalo84 (talk) 06:09, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

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