Talk:Stannis Baratheon

Possessive form of names ending in "S"

Okay I've been making this mistake for far too long so I decided to try to fact-check this:

We've been writing "Stannis'" (Stannis, an apostrophe, and NO following possessive "S") for things that belong to Stannis: "Stannis' army", "Stannis' daughter".

I think we were overcompensating. I checked this style guide http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm -- though admittedly there is more than one official style guide floating around out there.

At any rate, it appears that we've been overcompensating due to mental association with rules about possessive S and PLURAL nouns:

"The Lannisters' money" is correct, but "the Lannisters's money" is incorrect.

That only applies to plural nouns, not singular nouns like a man named "Stannis" that happen to end in "S". In which case, "Stannis's" would actually be correct.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:06, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I checked: the A Song of Ice and Fire books themselves use "Stannis's" with a following possessive "S". This will now be the official version on the wiki, because it is the version used by George R.R. Martin. So sayeth the shepherd, so sayeth the flock. (Frankly I prefer it this way - the dangling lone apostrophe makes wiki-coding problems, ends up italicizing stuff that shouldn't be).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:11, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've read all the books, except book 4 and 5. In the books Stannis is an atheist. But even in the show he says to Davos that he doesn't care about gods. So should we change his religion to atheism or something.

Well no, because it isn't just "belief" but also which religion they "support", as a cultural/political thing. With the Lannisters, for example, Tywin is explicitly not very religious ("He believes in the gods, he just doesn't like them very much") but he makes sure to politically influence the Faith of the Seven; Jaime was raised in the Faith of the Seven and takes part in its ceremonies, but privately reveals he doesn't really believe in any gods (because if any religion was real, its gods wouldn't have let the Mad King's reign of terror happen). So while Stannis is something of an atheist (albeit, it is ambiguous) he has chosen to support the Lord of Light religion as a political decision (the Lannisters have their claws deeply around the Faith of the Seven, basically choosing the election of new High Septons through bribery, to the point that it was easier to just switch to a different religion). --The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:11, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Wtg Stannis

Switching my allegiance to His Grace Tommen of the House Baratheon, First of His Name, the Best Chance we have for a good King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.

Kinslayer Stannis indeed.

He's dead, folks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHMuqH7yOQc

The Inside the Episode is pretty straightforward. He's dead. DRAEVAN13 02:32, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

No where in the video did they say Stannis Baratheon was dead. You are making stuff up. Simpsonsfan1992 (talk) 03:13, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Unless we get some confirmation from Stephen Dillane that Stannis is dead(like what Ian McElhinney did with his role as Barristan) or if we see his body, then i will not believe that he is dead. LeonardohJ4 (talk) 03:17, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

All they said was he was ready to die, nothing about him dying. If anything, that wording and the cut away are in favor of him being alive. But frankly it is uncertain, which is what it should say until it's been confirmed one way or another.67.247.140.29 03:21, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

He's dead.[1]

Yup, official website confirmed, Stannis is dead.  DRAEVAN13 03:26, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Welp, guess that's about it. I really don't like that they did this but eh, show is the show and books are the books. #RIPMannis LeonardohJ4 (talk) 03:29, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Welp, time to support the white walkers. Heil Night's King! Fuck humanity. If Jon Snow and Stannis are both dead than I want Westeros to freeze. Simpsonsfan1992 (talk) 03:50, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I guess he is dead.... for now. But the way they shot the scene makes it so weird, why not show it? The show never shyed away from violent character death's before,they outright had Jon snow shanked to death, and we know he isn't coming back, but we get a cut away but no real resolution. I think htey intentionally left it ambiogious to give them some breathing room, that last book had a similar affect, Stannis was proclaimed to be dead by Ramsey, but it wasn't ever truly confirmed, I think they wanted the same affect as in the book. They intentionally left it ambious, like the books, which I think was a really clever way of translating the same thing into a video format.

Well, offical is offical, even if the site ends up being wrong or misleading, it still holds more sway than my pathetic opinions ever could.67.247.140.29 04:04, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

RIP Stannis Baratheon, the One True King. 174.56.146.50 04:07, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Someone who can edit the page should add him to list of deceased characters on "Mother's Mercy."BrocktonBlocbuster (talk) 04:16, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

He is dead? Then show me his body! Jarmok (talk) 11:40, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Latest episode - Current status

The infobox for Stannis is below standard; is simply says 'Status     Dead' with no death reason. It should be changed to "Deceased" (like for all other characters) and put "Executed by Brienne of Tarth" in the 'death' voice as the reason. Considering the page is blocked, could someone with authority please do this.

Please change Stannis' status in the infobox to unconfirmed. There is still hope. The director didn't even film him getting executed, just the sword swing into nothing. 24.212.229.207 19:54, June 15, 2015 (UTC)