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Would anyone object to me adding Renly's reply to the top quote? I think it would better reflect Stannis' personality, particularly how he is perceived by others. [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] ([[User talk:Jayden Matthews|talk]]) 12:27, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
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Okay I've been making this mistake for far too long so I decided to try to fact-check this:
:No it wouldn't better reflect his personality. While Renly's line points out that Stannis isn't very popular, it sounds like he's a pariah out of context. Moreover...events in later books make it too harsh. On top of that, it makes the quote kind of too long.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 13:31, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
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We've been writing "Stannis'" (Stannis, an apostrophe, and NO following possessive "S") for things that belong to Stannis: "Stannis' army", "Stannis' daughter".
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I think we were overcompensating. I checked this style guide http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm -- though admittedly there is more than one official style guide floating around out there.
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At any rate, it ''appears'' that we've been overcompensating due to mental association with rules about possessive S and PLURAL nouns:
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"The Lannisters' money" is correct, but "the Lannisters's money" is incorrect.
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That only applies to ''plural'' nouns, not singular nouns like a man named "Stannis" that happen to end in "S". In which case, "Stannis's" would actually be correct.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 18:06, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
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'''I checked: the ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' books themselves use "Stannis's" with a following possessive "S". This will now be the official version on the wiki, because it is the version used by George R.R. Martin. So sayeth the shepherd, so sayeth the flock.''' (Frankly I prefer it this way - the dangling lone apostrophe makes wiki-coding problems, ends up italicizing stuff that shouldn't be).--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 18:11, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I've read all the books, except book 4 and 5. In the books Stannis is an atheist. But even in the show he says to Davos that he doesn't care about gods. So should we change his religion to atheism or something.

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Possessive form of names ending in "S"Edit

Okay I've been making this mistake for far too long so I decided to try to fact-check this:

We've been writing "Stannis'" (Stannis, an apostrophe, and NO following possessive "S") for things that belong to Stannis: "Stannis' army", "Stannis' daughter".

I think we were overcompensating. I checked this style guide http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm -- though admittedly there is more than one official style guide floating around out there.

At any rate, it appears that we've been overcompensating due to mental association with rules about possessive S and PLURAL nouns:

"The Lannisters' money" is correct, but "the Lannisters's money" is incorrect.

That only applies to plural nouns, not singular nouns like a man named "Stannis" that happen to end in "S". In which case, "Stannis's" would actually be correct.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:06, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I checked: the A Song of Ice and Fire books themselves use "Stannis's" with a following possessive "S". This will now be the official version on the wiki, because it is the version used by George R.R. Martin. So sayeth the shepherd, so sayeth the flock. (Frankly I prefer it this way - the dangling lone apostrophe makes wiki-coding problems, ends up italicizing stuff that shouldn't be).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:11, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've read all the books, except book 4 and 5. In the books Stannis is an atheist. But even in the show he says to Davos that he doesn't care about gods. So should we change his religion to atheism or something.

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