I'm starting to wonder if Black Walder surreptitiously killed his grandfather Stevron in his sleep. The books make it a point that no one thought Stevron's wounds at Oxcross were actually fatal, but then he was found dead in his tent. Black Walder was with Robb's army in the Westerlands as it is later mentioned that he fought at the Crag. They've also said that, while Black Walder is not confirmed to have killed any of his relatives yet, many fear that he is more than willing to kill his own blood, and is perhaps only waiting for old Lord Walder to die.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:26, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

The new Lord of the Twins

I hope it's allright to mention it, but can we be sure that Stevron Frey is now the Lord of the Twins? We haven't seen him since Season 1, and in the novels he died, the TV show hasn't introduced a heir so far. Maybe we will only get knowledge after the next season aired, if the producers include new scenes in the Riverlands. --Exodianecross (talk) 17:12, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Going to get a little speculative here. In the show, Littlefinger was not named Lord Paramount of the Trident, but instead Walder Frey was. Let's assume that Stevron has died. Lothar and Black Walder have too, of course. House Frey is essentially going to turn into... well, a mess. The new queen, Cersei, does not particularly have the greatest judgement as shown in the past. I feel that Littlefinger will send her a raven declaring that the knights of the Vale have retaken Winterfell from the Boltons, and falsely tell her that Sansa and the Boltons have been executed (which is what Cersei wants). As shown by her tinkering of the small council among other things, she doesn't seem to like to have a wide number of servants or allies. She may end up naming Littlefinger the Warden of the North and Lord Paramount of the North, in addition to being the new Lord Paramount of the Trident since House Frey will not be able to keep control of even itself, more or less the Riverlands. Rise, House Baelish! Reddyredcp (talk) 17:21, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
I understand you. I just think that sometimes everything stays unclear. Just for example, in the article "House Stark" was written that they are reinstalled as leaders of the North after "The Battle of the Bastards", but this wasn't established till "The Winds of Winter"! So I think, we have to wait what we'll see in the upcoming season, I assume the production has started now, I've heard that several castings will be hold in the next time. Therefore I think it's a little bit to early with Stevron as the new heir, we don't know if he's still alive or dead like in the novels! --Exodianecross (talk) 22:58, June 27, 2016 (UTC)