Talk:Tywin Lannister

I always wondered... does he really sh*t gold?Noc noc... whos their? Darknesssss 23:00, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

No, he's just very rich. How rich we don't know, but the richest man in Westeros, they say.--Mesmermann 23:14, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Comparisons with History

I wonder if Tywin Lannister was consciously modelled after Edward I Plantagenet of England? Both men were the ruthless and cunning sons of politically inept fathers (Tytos being the King Henry III to Tywin's 'Longshanks'), and like Edward, who had to re-establish the authority of the crown against the coalition of English barons led by Simon de Monfort, Tywin had to deal with powerful vassals such as the Reynes of Castamere. Both men also desired the strengthening their family legacies and the their realms under their control. Both men also had difficult relationships with their sons, who don't quite live up to their expectations. Tywin's designs on the North in Season 3 are slightly similar to what Edward did in Scotland when he installed someone who was essentially in his pocket as the king. --Fenrir51 (talk) 21:15, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

Henry III wasn't "inept" - Henry III's father John left the kingdom in shambles, and it took Henry decades to rebuilt the monarchy's lost strength. He did reasonably well in very adverse circumstances - it was a bad time for England, but not because of Henry III. The same could be said of the weakness of Edward II viz the strength of Edward III. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:18, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

I said Henry III was "politically" inept. While the country's problems during his reign were not his fault, his decisions in government were swayed by his favouritism of his Savoyard in-laws, and the Lusignans, which put him at odds with the rest of the English nobility. I wasn't questioning the man's skills in administration. Anyhow, I was largely talking about Tywin's shared similarities with Edward Longshanks, less so the commonalities between Henry III and Tytos Lannister. --Fenrir51 (talk) 22:20, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

The point stands: Edward I is simply a more famous king, but he doesn't make a particularly good parallel to Tywin.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:46, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Unlock or update

Please unlock the page or update it Mesmermann (talk) 09:23, April 14, 2014 (UTC)