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Pointing out a few mistakes Edit

You wrote:

"Catelyn Tully, is the eldest daughter of Hoster Tully, Lord of Riverrun and Lord Paramount of the Riverlands. Her father arranges for her to marry Brandon Stark who is eldest son and heir of Lord Rickard Stark, Lord of Winterfell and Lord Paramount of the North."

That comma between "Tully" and "is" ---> WRONG.

"Her father arranges" ---> "had arranged" is more accurate.

"marry Brandon Stark who is eldest son" ---> WRONG. You forgot the "the" between "is" and "eldest".

Also, where is it mentioned that Brandon was "on his way" to marry Catelyn when Lyanna is kidnapped by Rhaegar?

"Crown Prince" ---> it should be "crowned Prince". And "crowned Prince" is never mentioned in books or series. Stop trying to adorn your writing. This isn't narration.

I'm gonna stop now because I actually need to get a job done. Just to remind you that "background" is not to add book information.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 05:35, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

While I am also disgusted by the quality of writing I see here on this sandbox page...by definition, it is a "work in progress" and thus I don't think we can fairly judge it; he'll have the opportunity to spellcheck later. So we should wait until it is posted in a non-sandbox, real page to comment on it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 16:17, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Disgusted, really? This is a half written, unposted article that has a few misplaced commas, the word "the" was left out of a sentence, one word tense was wrong, and the term "Crown Prince" was used instead of "crowned Prince", and you are disgusted. The world must really disappoint you. Still thank you for understanding that this is not a finished work, and if you have any notes for improvement or scenes that you think should be included or admitted, please feel free to comment.Ch'vyalthan (talk) 18:37, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

managed to erase stuffEdit

I don't know how I did it, but part of my article just disappeared. At first I thought that I had neglected to press publish, but there was a picture, which I remember seeing, that is now gone. So I have to figure out what is missing so that I can find it in history or rewrite it. Grrrr. I don't even know how I did it. Maybe I had my finger pushing down the the delete key. Oh well, I was just getting near the end and was thinking of posting today, but now I'd better wait. Still, it gives me more time to double check.Ch'vyalthan (talk) 17:42, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Pictures Edit

Dude, instead of just copy-pasting whatever image you consider to fit try uploading new ones for once. Learn how to do it. There are websites with screenshots.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 00:50, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

We've complained about this extensively before: he didn't know how to upload photos for weeks, then when I finally barked at him at pointed out that it's an easy three-step process...turns out he's only contributing with an iPad, and iPads don't let you save images, so he can't re-upload them from his iPad even with screenshots he finds online. Apparently, it isn't his fault that he's only using an iPad so we have no right to complain...which apparently gives him the right to just plaster whatever images he can find on the wiki already into other articles. Can't this guy use, like, a public library desktop?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:32, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

I've contacted the tech support number I got when I got the IPad, but they couldn't tell me anything. They suggested that I take the IPad in for servicing at the store I bought it at or contact the company directly. There must be someway for this thing to download and save pictures. Anyway, I am still working on it. Ch'vyalthan (talk) 18:56, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Then don't just use whatever image you feel like it. And use a computer.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:30, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

The pictures you are talking about had Petyr Baelish in them, so I posted them into the gallery in the Petyr Baelish article. This was about a month or a month and a half ago. Later I was told not to do this, as he was not the main character of the photo. I really haven't been posting a lot of photos from the image galleries lately. I still do post some when I think that they fit. I posted the photo of the seal on the letter Eddard Stark sent to Stannis Baratheon in the article for House Stark. It was the seal of the direwolf in grey wax. I had really hoped to have been able to start getting my own photos by now. Since I haven't, I put already posted photos in my "Eddard and Catelyn Stark" article as it is nearly completed. When I am able to get photos I will be posting them. Please believe me that no-one will be happier than I will be when that day comes. You have not rewritten everything that I have done; I have contributed a great deal, and I see things that I have added all the time. For the last few weeks I have been making careful edits. I had one note that I put into an episode article removed, probably because it was a very minor point, and I was told to make movie titles italic rather than putting them in quotation marks, a point that is duly noted. If you think that something I have done needs to be rewritten, then please make a note to me, and I will rewrite it. I am much better now than I was before. Ch'vyalthan (talk)

Hopefully, I will get a computer sometime soon. These long articles are really a pain when you have to type with one finger. Anyway, I was just telling Dragon that the article is almost done, so I have put in photo that already exist on the wiki, but I will put in more of my own photos as soon as I am able to do so. Ch'vyalthan (talk)

You haven't been making "better edits" the last few weeks, only fewer edits because enough of of started complaining about how sloppy you were for months, forcing you to finally sow down. No, you are not much better now than you were before. Simply ceasing all editing to "in the books" does not mean, can not mean, that you "got better" at writing the "in the books" sections...you simply stopped writing those completely, because we complained enough. Or do you have an explanation for how ceasing to write "in the books" sections entirely is somehow "better"? This is a running multi-sided conversation, DO NOT remove sections and repost them to my personal Talk page.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:07, January 19, 2013 (UTC)




20:56, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

The would be article Edit

Is this going to be a glorified recap of all scenes with Catelyn and Eddard? The article shpuld be about their relationship. What does Ros fracking another whore has to do with it? This is should be about their marriage. Every other event should be simply referenced, not described in detail.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:13, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

In that scene there is a massive amount of exposition about Eddard's and Catelyn's relationship, with the whole story of how they came to be married in the first place and how she came to love him. Petyr Baelish also has a great deal to do with the relationship in that the reason he betrays Eddard has to do with the fact that he has never gotten over these events of the past. As for mentioning Ros, the reason Petyr Baelish starts talking about any of this is because he is being asked questions by Ros, and he says he won't join the women because he is still true to Catelyn (whatever he means by that is left to the reader).

I started out this article by only including Eddard and Catelyn scenes, but then Petyr Baelish came into it so much that some of his information came in as well. However, these are only the scenes that deal with Eddard and Catelyn: Petyr talking about the past, Petyr trying very poorly to romance a grieving Catelyn, and delivering her husband's bones to her at Renly's camp. There is also descriptions of parts of scenes where Catelyn is talking to Robb about Eddard. Any other information I include has to do with continuity. I made brief references to things that had happened so that in reading the article the plot points are supported. I put in that Robb had captured Jaime, because Petyr Baelish later comes in offering to trade Sansa and Arya for him. Any information not necessary to continuity has been omitted, such as the fact that Catelyn took Tyrion prisoner. Though thinking about it now, I will probably go back and put that in, because Eddard takes credit for his wife's actions, which shows his devotion not only to her, but also to duty and responsibility.

I used QueenBuffy's article on Drogo and Daenerys Targareyn as an example, and it has quite a bit of information about Viserys and Ser Jorah. I think I'll leave a message and a link for QueenBuffy so I can get a definitive answer to this question before I post. It really is something I need to know as I have quite a few more relationship articles planned. Ch'vyalthan (talk) 23:24, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

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