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Exactly. And her body still needs to be found by Arya. It's important for her character development to see her mother dead to reassure her that the Red Wedding wasn't a cruel nightmare. M4ND0N (talk) 22:08, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't want to burden the Michelle Fairley talk page with this comment so I moved it here. Her body....needs to be found by Arya? WHY? No, it isn't "important for her character development"...wha-what....needs to see her corpse to confirm she's dead? Uh...no. Robb and Bran never physically saw Eddard's corpse, but that detail changed nothing. "Reassure her that it wasn't a cruel nightmare"? That's absurd. Look, in the books Arya wasn't even able to get close to the castle, she was only in the outer camps when the fighting started - and thus never personally witnessed Grey Wind and Robb die. Not personally witnessing the event changed nothing; Arya was filled with a drive for revenge after word spread of Robb and Catelyn's death.
- I will tell you right now: NO, ARYA NEVER SEES CATELYN'S CORPSE.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:12, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Moreover, I made a comment saying "Catelyn is in an upcoming dream sequence"...you responded by saying "exactly, so Arya can see her corpse"....No....No, not "exactly". A dream sequence is a dream sequence, i.e. not "real" - in which case she would never "see a corpse to confirm that the death was real". Dear God, man. I just said "DREAM SEQUENCE" -- were you even reading what I wrote?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:13, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
Infobox images should be more than just a headshot, but include part of a character's distinctive costume. Then again, full wide-shots do show the full costume, but not enough detail of the character. We're looking for a mid-level chest shot at least, I guess. Anyway the replacement you made for Robb Stark was better than what we had, but can you find a better shot (if this one was cropped) that shows a bit more of the distinctive Stark direwolf sigil cloak clasps that he was wearing?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:25, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
You asked me on my talk page about Sansa's age in the TV series vs in the books. I responded, you still disagreed.
I moved the discussion to the appropriate "Talk:Timeline" page to continue discussion there.
Instead, you unilaterally changed the ages on both the Arya and Sansa pages, and made no attempt to continue the discussion on "Talk:Timeline". Instead, your edit summary for Sansa was "(She's not 15-16. Might wanna brush up on the timeline)" -- I told you to read the Timeline page on this wiki and you didn't, I told you to continue the discussion there and you ignored it.
I've temp banned you for one day as a result, and reverted your changes.
Please, once the ban is over, continue this as a discussion on the Talk:Timeline page.
"Brush up on the timeline" -- yes, we know what the book timeline is. The TV show timeline is different. I told you as much and asked you to discuss this.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:26, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
Understood. Thank you for explaining things to me.. you did so very well, and although I feel the ages of the characters should be discussed further, I'm glad you explained your reasoning to me. With that being said, I do want to mention that I didn't know you moved the discussion, but rather assumed you deleted it altogether and I acted rashly and for that I apologize. If you don't mind me saying though, I feel temporarily banning me was a little extreme. I think if you left a warning on my wall and explained the situation as you did, that would have served it's purpose just the same. Again, sorry for the brief edit war, I'll use that discussion page you linked me as requested. Mandon (talk) 02:25, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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Per my previous warning, you've been blocked from editing for two weeks for repeatedly violating the image policy. When you return any further infractions will result in a month long block. Thank you.-- 05:53, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
No worries. For future references this explains how to properly upload images to the wiki.-- 06:38, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I gotcha. I'll make sure to remember for any future uploads.. if you disregard that Robb Stark image I uploaded a few minutes ago, of course. But I re-uploaded it and made sure I added all the things I was supposed to this time.. hopefully all of them, anyways. Mandon (talk) 06:50, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'd actually already reverted it. The one we have in Robb's profile at the moment is pretty much perfect, and will be staying.-- 06:56, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah I understand. I like it better too.. I just figured there was a preference towards images of a character in their latest attire. Mandon (talk) 06:59, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
- There are no rules in that regard. Generally speaking, we use images that best represent the character, hence Robb in armor, not civilian clothes. Quality is important as well... sometimes those HBO images are really good... sometimes they're dark, desaturated and grainy. The screenshot we have of Robb at the moment is HD. Profile images should also always be portrait style (longer than they are wide), whereas yours was landscape.-- 07:08, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
Will do. My apologies. Mandon (talk) 04:26, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
NO. Reek wasn't "dressed in a tunic identical to Robb's to mock Sansa" -- that's what Northern-style clothing in general looks like. Don't jump to an unsubstantiated conclusion like that. Read Costumes.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 16:24, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
It literally was the same tunic. Same embroidered design on the arms. The only difference was the cloak and belt. Even Sophie Turner confirmed that it was the same outfit. --Mandon (talk) 17:32, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
....oh. I never saw what Turner said. You didn't do anything wrong then. Do you have a link to what Sophie Turner said? That kind of thing needs a citation link or something. I will need to investigate this further. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:07, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Ack, I kept putting off watching that panel video in full.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 05:06, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, the Timeline in the TV series has issues.
That's not really a matter of the timeline being iffy though. It's a matter of people on this wiki making baseless assumptions off of variables that don't really have any bearing on how old Tommen is, like the age of maturity in Westeros - which as we've seen with Joffrey in the books, isn't an indicator of whether a king needs a consort or not. --Mandon (talk) 16:31, May 9, 2016 (UTC)