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The Boy Who Cried Direwolf

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December 30, 2012
  • I live in UK
  • I was born on May 25
  • My occupation is Artist
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== Fragmented conversations ==
 
   
I, too, cannot stand fragmented conversations criss-crossing between two user talk page; it makes three-way or more conversations extremely difficult. Any correspondence will follow the same pattern as on a Talk page for a specific article; all on one Talk page.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 18:28, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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: How refreshing to meet someone who feels the same about this. Some wikis actually prohibit users from dictating the way their discussions are formatted. I'm very relived to discover that this is not the case here.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 19:20, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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==Umber banner==
   
:: For all I know it is, actually. I just think it's utterly counter-intuitive (unless I'm trying to get someone's attention because they've been away from the wiki for a while or very busy on other articles and want them to get the popup message).--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 04:34, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
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Did you upload a new file?--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 16:26, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Userboxes ==
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: Just a tighter, squared crop of the same image. It translates better in templates, such as the infobox, family trees, and userbox.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:34, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
Excellent work on setting up your own userbox. I was hoping they'd catch on, but for the first six months or so only the Stark and Targaryen ones were getting any usage (thankfully The Knight of the Flowers came along and is a big Tyrell fan). Still the hope was that if people wanted them for other Houses beyond the original dozen or so that they would learn by example and set up their own; excellent. I think of the Starks as honorable fools who don't understand that the rest of the world isn't playing by their rules (though at the same time, the Targaryens always followed the basic rules of war, fealty, hospitality, etc.). Anyway there is much work to do in many areas, but you understand that we can't use book spoilers (despite the unfortunately choppy and needless cliffhanger ending they forced at the end of Season 2) so you should be alright. Minor thing - the Boltons use pink in the books but I think their TV series color scheme is red and black.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 18:33, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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==Must Watch videos==
   
: Thank you for the kind words. Truth be told, I based my page on your own, as I thought it looked particularly cool, and, as a long term reader of "A Wiki of Ice and Fire" I've become a large admirer of Amoka's work. "Fools" is certainly an apt term for the Starks. In particular, I found Eddard's inability to distinguish what is "honorable" from what is truly ''right'' maddening, no end! And yes, I think I understand the spoiler policy and whatnot. I've been meaning to sign up to this wiki for a while, but due to sitting exams (and everything that goes with it) I just haven't had the time. I did spend a few days orientating myself with the wiki, it's policies, guidelines etc. so as to spare you, and others from having to go around explaining things to me, and fixing my mistakes. I too was left somewhat frustrated by the way the "Siege of Winterfell" was depicted, creating speculation among non-book readers where none need exist! I'm glad there is still work to be done, as I'm very eager to be of service. Is there anything in particular I could turn my efforts to? I'm aware that this wiki (more so than most) is incredibly well put together, and so I'm very cautious not to spoil that. And you're absolutely correct about the colors of House Bolton. In fact, I did preview a pink box, but it was far to garish. Anyway, thank you again. Well met.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 19:20, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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This has gone too far. Now the videos have nothing to do with GoT. And they show up above the "Read also" feature.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 16:28, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Well it's a compliment; pet peeve is I can't stand how "Thank-You-For-Your-Kind-Words" has become an internet stock phrase equivalent to "Thanks"; spreading like a thought meme. But that's just me getting fixated. I will say, without spoilers, that one of the reasons people are getting REALLY annoyed at the changes to Robb Stark is that he IS NOT a perfect leader; the whole point is that he's a good soldier but bad politician, and this increasingly becomes apparent. I.e., blaming Catelyn when he broke a vital marriage alliance by marrying a nobody for love. This isn't me talking - real-life friends (who read the books) are infuriated about how illogical the writers' hero-worship of Robb is. I'm holding off...because I honestly hope that Season 3 will begin with his uncle Brynden dropping the other shoe, and slapping him in the head and pointing out how idiotic breaking their alliance with House Frey was. I seriously, seriously wait for the precise moment when Robb looks into the camera and says "But I'd already had sex with her...marrying her was the honorable thing to do!"....and viewers everywhere will groan in unison, "Stark honor all over again". --[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 04:39, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
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: Agreed. We need to take action now, before this goes any further. I also want to find out if they are planning another "Create your own House" style contest like the one they forced on us last year. I'm not sure how you felt about it... personally I thought it was a fiasco, and another one should be avoided like the plague!--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:34, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
:: Guys, people who haven't read the books can still be reading this... So please keep the spoilers to a minimum. --[[User:Martell|Martell]] ([[User talk:Martell|talk]]) 12:28, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
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::The "Create your own House" contest sucked. If they want something like that it should be limited to personal blogs.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 17:45, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
::: Yeah, I was trying to be vague (sorry to delete your stuff above but we can't have spoilers)--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 19:35, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
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::: I'm going to contact them to find out what their plans are regarding this.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 19:19, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::: Sorry about that. I was also trying to be vague, but obviously not enough.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]])
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::::I was pretty angry about that contest at the time, now I'm sort of ambivalent - they might as well have contests like that. People signed up for it that weren't regular contributors, though I guess their hope was that people would sign up for the contest and then stick around. Well, who doesn't like Heraldry?--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 19:29, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
== R'hlorr ==
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::::: True, the intentions behind the contests are good; it's just the execution that leaves something to be desired...--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:42, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
As noted in the "in the books" section for "The Lord of Light", they've only ever used "Lord of Light" in the TV series, never "R'hlorr"; probably to keep fans from being confused (quite probably, there's a good chance "R'hlorr" is just the word for "Lord of Light" in he language of Asshai). Anyway, our convention has been to only use "Lord of Light" on the wiki, not "R'hlorr" (except in the "in the books" sections).--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 19:49, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Did you get any answer about those damn "Must Watch" videos?--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 23:51, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Right you are. It says in the introduction of the "Lord of Light" article that he's also known as R'hllor, so I'm not sure if you want to remove that.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 19:56, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
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: Nope, and they're cropping up again on category pages. I've also reached out to the guys on the Fallout Wiki about Google Chrome, but they haven't replied yet.--09:52, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
::We're kind of fudging it a little but "(otherwise known as R'hlorr)" is at the beginning of the article just to set that up, bu it's an exception.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 20:17, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
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==Youtube==
   
== Ramsay ==
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The Wikia and Youtube people will yell at us if we directly link to Histories & Lore featurettes that are technically illegally uploaded. If nothing else, linking to them on your home page will increase the chances that official copyright people will notice that they've been loaded onto youtube, then force them to be removed, after which everyone can't enjoy them anymore. They're an open secret...but that only goes so far. I don't think you should risk it.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 00:57, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
"Not referred to as such yet" [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Bastard?diff=64469&oldid=62574]. True. But note my edit summary when I ''created'' the "Ramsay Snow" page: [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Ramsay_Snow?action=history] "was, is, and always will be, the Bastard of Bolton, Ramsay *Snow*."--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 15:08, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
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: I hadn't considered that. Thanks for the heads up.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 01:35, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
: That he will. Fair enough, should I re-add it?--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 11:02, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
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==Mormont Userbox==
   
== Recaps ==
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Hey, who asked for a Mormont userbox? (always interesting when people pic a specific House to support).--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 19:29, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, they do need to be written. I put the recaps into the episode category a few weeks ago and made that list on the top of the page with the idea that then the recaps would finally get written. I wrote about that on the episode category talk page, and I also wrote Golden Crown recap. That was painful. My iPad ran out of charge and I lost my whole edit and had to redo it. [[User:Ch&#39;vyalthan|Ch&#39;vyalthan]] ([[User talk:Ch&#39;vyalthan|talk]]) 15:11, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: That must have been frustrating. Fortunately it won't be an issue for me, as I always write everything down on paper first if I'm working on a major piece; like an essay, or coursework.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 15:18, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
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: Oh, no one (sorry to disappoint). Ideally I'd like us to have userboxes for all the houses, great and small, and ones for all other orders, religions etc. We could have them all documented in a community page and link it into the welcome message somehow... tell people that they ''have'' to pick a house before they start editing. That's... ''the dream''.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:56, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
== A is A ==
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::That's a good idea.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 15:31, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
I realized the mistake with the "A" in "A Song of Ice and Fire" a few weeks ago....but realized it would require going through almost ''every'' article on the entire wiki to fix. It is taking too much time away from more pressing tasks. So my ad hoc solution has been this: every time I'm editing an article for any reason, and I notice that it doesn't have the "A" in "A Song of Ice and Fire", I fix it...along with the unrelated edit I was going to make. But it was taking too much time away from other goals to shoot time focusing on that. I think it's better to just chip away at it over time.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 22:32, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
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==The Dreadfort image==
   
: I came to the same realization after I changed the first dozen or so. Yesterday was a rarity for me in that I had the whole day to commit to the task. I doubt I'll get such an opportunity again in the near future, and so will do as you suggest and chip away, one bit at a time.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 11:12, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Where did it come from?--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 17:12, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
== "Novels" ==
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I'm not entirely sure. A new user uploaded [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/File%3AYaradreadfort.png this] screenshot, and I cropped it from there.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 17:17, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
The format is supposed to be "In the ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' novels", as casual fans might not even know what "A Song of Ice and Fire" is if they're TV first. You've been changing this to just "In ''A Song of Ice and Fire''" [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow?diff=65332&oldid=61372&cb=3293], but you should change it back.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 15:29, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
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==Kingsguard loyalty for users==
   
: If you insist, but isn't it redundant, as the above section headline reads "In the books"?--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 15:42, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
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The Kingsguard of the show does have a "symbol" of sorts.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 17:43, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
:: I've also noticed this recently. I have some free time this week, and will assist. You've made a terrific start, however. {{The Knight of the Flowers/Signiture}} 17:12, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
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: True, but it's kinda uncertain whether or not it's ''supposed'' to be an actual sigil, or just an adornment for their armour.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 17:56, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
::: Thanks.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]])12:23, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
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==Season 4 premiere==
   
== Username ==
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Think of it: only 2 hours until Season 4 begins. Then the floodgates open. To say nothing of the horde of vandals, the massive amount of new work, we'll have dozens or even hundreds of random editors coming on making sloppy edits.
   
Tough break with the username. I had a similar experience where I was "advised" by Wikia to change my own, because it contained my actual name. Which makes sense, I guess, as there are a lot of weirdos out there. {{The Knight of the Flowers/Signiture}} 14:16, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
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This will ''consume'' us, as you remember back in Season 3.
   
: Thanks. Yeah, it wasn't a demand, just a suggestion. Seeing as I ''do'' want to join other wikis in the future, I thought I'd better just get on with it.--[[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|The Boy Who Cried Direwolf]] ([[User talk:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf|talk]]) 14:43, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
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Good to be alongside you guys trying to handle this oncoming horde.
   
:: Your old username was better. What other "non-adult" wikis? At the very least, you're not editing on other wikis ''now''...so why not just keep going by "The Bastard of Bolton" during months when actively editing here? I've you're going to join say, the Muppets Wiki a year from now or something, why not just change your name at a later date? I think other wikis would only notice if you were actively editing under then name (thus it would show up in "recent changes") and just leave a note on your "away" page during the off seasons on other wikis. If anything, what with Season 3 gearing up on here, won't you be here more than other places?--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 23:46, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
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Have no illusions: not all of us will make it through premiere night alive.
   
::: Yes, it was better, and in retrospect I should have put more thought into the new one. I'm not active on any other wikis at the moment , and will be here almost exclusively in the coming months. However I want to edit Wookieepedia and the Harry Potter Wiki at some point, and the more well known I become under one name, the harder it will be to change to another. Oh, well. Such is life.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:37, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
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The enemy is at the gates.
   
== Better images ==
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He who stands with me shall be my brother.
   
Great job with the "Better Images"... I hope you find one for Tyrion.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 23:31, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
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--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 23:09, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Thanks. I will try and find one for Tyrion.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:37, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
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: And so it begins.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 04:05, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Meryn Trant ==
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==Dornish Sigils in "Two Swords"==
   
The lightning of the photo looks weird and Meryn's face is a lil' bot out of focus... If you can find/make a better picture it would be better. Check out [http://www.homeofthenutty.com/gameofthrones/screencaps/index.php HomeOfTheNutty] for good quality screencaps.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 20:23, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
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I needhelp identifying the last two sigils held by the Martell bannermen:
   
==Your input==
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* First pair: Dalt and Blackmont
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* Second pair: Manwoody and Qorgyle
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* Third pair: One with a checkered background and the other an orange banner: Jordayne and Uller?
   
Hello Boy, if you want you're welcome to come over to the [[Forum:Formal_request_to_permanently_ban_Ch'vyalthan|forum]] and voice your opinion Ch'vyalthan's fate.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 19:03, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
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In the books there are several houses present: Allyrion, Jordayne, UIler, Gargalen, Toland.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:02, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Thanks, will do.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 19:23, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
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: No problem. Just give me a moment to finishing watching the episode, and I'll go back and take a closer look.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 05:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Personalised signatures==
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:The Book of Brothers will finally give us a good mini-icon for the Kingsguard.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 06:55, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed that users like you and The Knight of Flowers have personalised signatures, i.e you with direwolf head and the Game of Thrones font. I'm wondering, how do you make a personal signature like that? [[User:Draevan13|Draevan13]] ([[User talk:Draevan13|talk]]) 15:17, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: Hi there. It's easy enough, once you know how. My signature is simply two images, with links to my user and talk page. I downloaded the font from the web, and pieced it together myself, and re-colored it. I think The Knight of Flowers' sig is the result of wiki code. I'm happy to help you make a sig of your own, if you like?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 15:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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:: Got it; not... great, but definitely better than before. It confirms that it ''is'' a sigil, at least.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:52, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
:: Sure, how do I do it? [[User:Draevan13|Draevan13]] ([[User talk:Draevan13|talk]]) 15:38, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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::: I concur with the flames of Uller, but the second to last one is very hard to make out, as the Qorgyle banner gets in the way. You're probably right, but it could also be Yronwood.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:35, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
::: For starters I would suggest creating a user sub-page, like [[User:The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signature|mine]]. This allows you to design your sig, and see what it will look like.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 15:46, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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== Upcoming Community Videos ==
   
:::: Okay, I created it: [[User: Draevan13/Signature]]. [[User:Draevan13|Draevan13]] ([[User talk:Draevan13|talk]]) 15:53, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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Hi there!
   
::::: Cool. So, what do you want your signature to look like?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:03, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm Brian and I work with Wikia. I wanted to touch base with you about a series of [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Brian_Linder/Game_of_Thrones:_Fan_vs._Critic_-_We_Want_YOU recurring videos] we have planned for the Game of Thrones community, and maybe being a part of it. Would you mind dropping me a line on my wall or by email at brian@wikia-inc.com when you have a moment? Thanks!
   
:::::: Simply Draevan13 in capital black letters, and the Targaryen sigil next to it, like your Stark sigil. [[User:Draevan13|Draevan13]] ([[User talk:Draevan13|talk]]) 16:16, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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--[[User:Brian_Linder|<font color="Blue">Brian</font>]]<staff /> 18:03, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::::::Happy?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:29, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:::::::: I am indeed. How do I use it as my signature? [[User:Draevan13|Draevan13]] ([[User talk:Draevan13|talk]]) 16:37, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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==Deletion==
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Hi there I'm just wondering why you deleted the page I created?
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[[User:Pgardiner|Pgardiner]] ([[User talk:Pgardiner|talk]]) 10:55, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::::::: Excellent. Just go up to your username in the top right hand corner, bring up the drop-down menu and select "preferences". Then, replace the text in the signature box with SUBST:User:Draevan13/Signature, putting {{ round either end, and be sure to select the little box underneath.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:48, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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: The "Best of GOT" page? Because this isn't the place for such things. We're an encyclopaedia, not a gossip forum.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:00, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::::::: Well, it's all done. Thanks for your help! [[User:Draevan13|<font face="" color="#000000">'''DRAEVAN13'''</font>]][[File:Targaryen.JPG|26px|link=User talk:Draevan13]] 17:02, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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: I thought wikia was an open site for creating pages based on a topic, do you have a book of rules somewhere this is only my second page and I'm a novice?[[User:Pgardiner|Pgardiner]] ([[User talk:Pgardiner|talk]]) 11:05, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::::::::: You're welcome.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 17:12, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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: Surely all these pages are 'just gossip'  can't say I can see a difference between what I created and this one for instance http://divergent.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Asnow89/FOURTRIS_Romance_%26_Dystopian_Chicago-_The_Cast_Responds[[User:Pgardiner|Pgardiner]] ([[User talk:Pgardiner|talk]]) 11:11, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:I thought wikia was different from wikipedia? Can you explain the difference ?[[User:Pgardiner|Pgardiner]] ([[User talk:Pgardiner|talk]]) 11:17, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
==God of Death/Many-Faced God==
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:: Every wiki is different. We are not the Divergent Wiki, we are the Game of Thrones Wiki, and we have ''very'' high standards. At any rate, the page you linked to was a ''blog'', not an article, which is what you created. No, people cannot create any page they want as long as it's about the subject. In that respect we are much more like Wikipedia than other wikis. Please take the time to look around the site to see what we are about, and read our [[Policies and guidelines]] before editing further. Thank you.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:32, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Good job of God of Death/Many-Faced God. I was reluctant to add it because it wasn't quite mentioned by name, but screw it, it will be there soon enough.
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:: Hi there, thanks for this, I've now had a look at guidelines, but I definitely didn't link to a blog?  I don't have a blog, I was just trying to create a GOT ranking page for people to vote for their favourite characters etc so we could see who was the best knight, or the best member of Night's watch and so on.  I love the series and can't wait for next episode.  I can see there are serious pages on your wiki for people who like to read a lot ..but can't there be some lighthearted fun ones too?[[Special:Contributions/82.12.173.23|82.12.173.23]] 11:55, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:: I don't think you gave me much of a chance to develop the page or to see if anyone else wanted to join in editing it, admittedly it was a beginners page but that's no reason to delete it?[[Special:Contributions/82.12.173.23|82.12.173.23]] 11:59, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Also I must compliment the good work you've been doing on the wiki since joining just a few weeks ago. Your contributions have been of good quality and numerous. Not to sound obsequious though; just I was thinking of you in comparison to ass-hat Ch'vyalthan, who made far more edits and for months beforehand, and who you completely put to shame in a few weeks, simply by being a modest new editor adding new stuff where you can. Stay the course. Also good work on the religion boxes we'll have to get to those soon enough...--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 18:40, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Please let this go. No, new users are not allowed to publish sloppy, half-finished "humour" ''articles'', and then leave them to be developed later. Now, the wiki has been heavily vandalised in the past few hours, and I'm in the process of fixing the damage: You're distracting me.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 12:14, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Thanks. I was also hesitant, as I seem to recall that the Faceless Men regard their God as simply a metaphor for death itself, rather than an actual omniscient deity. It's been awhile since I read the latter books, however, so I couldn't quite remember. As for the infoboxes, again, thanks. I didn't want to start flooding the wiki with them, but there are a couple of major season 3 factions that I thought of adding: House Frey, the Brotherhood etc - I wasn't sure if it would be best to wait until people show an interest in them?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 07:23, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Well I'm clearly not a vandal and was planning to develop the article I created at the weekend, so why don't you deal with the real villains and put my page back up so I can keep editing, is there a way of saving without publishing?  I could try again and save without publishing until it was better... every one has to have a chance and I've done nothing to suggest I'd do anything horrible to your wiki....[[User:Pgardiner|Pgardiner]] ([[User talk:Pgardiner|talk]]) 12:21, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
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:::: The page will not be recreated. If you continue pushing this you will be blocked from editing. Let it go.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 12:31, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Martyn Lannister ==
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:::: Ok gone.  None taken. By the way there's an r missing in your profile it says when you 'fist signed up' ... assume you mean first?  I'm an editor by profession and these things have a tendency to leap out on me. 
Please, please, other than Imdb it would be good to find another source for the appearances and casting confirmations, since Imdb often employs second-hand sources such as fan-sites, even the wiki itself, and can be edited by users.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 15:52, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: Okay, I'll see what I can dig up.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 18:59, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
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...You're an editor who doesn't realize the distinction between articles of substance and needless fluff? I'm an editor too, of a sort, editing out non sequitor additions...(shrug)....ban this person at your discretion, Boy, I don't feel like getting worked up over it...--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 15:10, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Stannis image ==
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: While I ''do'' need a new cloak... it may be a bit early to get the knifes out. I'll let her run round the woods for a bit, and we'll see what happens.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:29, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
There was another new image of Stannis. I think that would be better for the infobox. His teeth-grinding would be better, uncropped, in the gallery.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 15:36, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
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==Mace Tyrell image==
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I'd like to ask you to find a better quality one, if its not too much trouble.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 20:26, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
: I did consider that one, but A: his head is slightly chopped off at the top, and B: there isn't much shoulder to be had. The image starts almost immediately under his chin, which makes the proportions seem a little off. I also thought his facial expression was a little bland, whereas the teeth grinding is characteristic of Stannis.
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: I can have a look, but to my knowledge that's the only in-universe one at the moment. We may have to wait until Sunday.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 20:40, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
It's entirely up to you, though. I'll upload the other one anyway.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 16:43, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
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==Title blacklist==
   
==House Bolton Family Tree==
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Did the wikia folks tell you what's up with the title blacklist, I won't want anyone creating articles on the "two swords" until they are named in the show.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 21:14, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
Good work on the House Bolton family tree template. Can you make some minor changes to bring it in line with how the page for [[Robert Baratheon]] handled bastards: Bolton and the miller's wife should be a dotted line, not a solid line, like for Gendry; also it might confuse people that her name was "Miller", so copy what was done for Gendry and retitle his mother as "An unnamed miller's wife". --[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 20:32, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
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: Hey. I did respond on your talk-page about this a while ago... you must not have seen. Long story short, there's nothing wrong with the blacklist; Greater good created the Jon Connington page, and, as as admin, the blacklist didn't prevent him from doing so. It only protects pages against creation by regular users. Have any other articles been created that shouldn't have?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:54, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Thanks, and I see those changes have been made by CestWhat.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 21:18, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
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== ? ==
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Okay, thank you for your help...[[User:Ashley Brown|Ashley Brown]] ([[User talk:Ashley Brown|talk]]) 09:32, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Infobox image updates==
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Okay, It looks like I need some help with getting the information to show and I need help with identifying an episode for Arya Stark that I have for when she got older. Is it possible you could help? I also need help with the first picture of Sansa Stark with her mom. I can't seem to find what episode the photo is from? I know what season and episodes that the first photo of Arya, latest episode of Sansa, and both 1st and 4th season where Daenery's was featured.
Please, don't forget to move the previous pictures to the gallery, specially when the infobox image is a promotional one, like in Roose Bolton's case.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:49, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: Will do.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 05:56, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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==DanyD==
   
== Thanks ==
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I think you should state the reason that led to DanyD getting banned.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 23:11, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
Oh, thank you! {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 06:32, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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:Nevermind, I checked and did it myself.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 23:15, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
: You're welcome.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 06:37, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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==Castportal==
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I'm expanding the frontpage castportal to 5 x 5, and thus it will have enough space to include Roose and Ramsay. I'm pressed for time. I will load in placeholder images for both, but can you please find images for both of them, of your preference? Crucially, they need to be re-sized to be the same size as the other cast portal images.
   
:: And can you tell me who/what the little girl was at the end? {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 06:50, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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Go to this page and edit in source mode: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Castportal
   
::: The assassin? Just an apparition conjured up by the Warlocks of Qarth. They want revenge on Daenerys for killing Pyat Pree.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 06:55, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
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You just find the part where is says "Ramsay" or "Roose" and swap in the title of the photos when you're ready.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 23:55, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
::::Oooh, okay. I thought maybe some new kind of creature lol. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 07:00, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Indeed, just a Warlock, taking the place of the Sorrowful Man from the books. And the manticore.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 07:25, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Frey family tree ==
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: Excellent. Will do.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 06:10, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
Instead of one for all the house, I think it would be better to have one for each of Lord Walder's women.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 20:48, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
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==I'm sorry==
   
: Yeah, that's fine. Makes sense, I guess.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:50, April 7, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, if I've done something wrong. I can see you redone last episode. I've been on this site since ending of season 2 (I think). I got told by Opark that "Last episode" gets updated after every episode. I've not  received any complaint about it, and it wasn't corrected either. It's a new thing? I sincerly  sorry for causing you that trouble it's that the case. [[User:Mesmermann|Mesmermann]] ([[User talk:Mesmermann|talk]]) 10:26, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Unidentified boy ==
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: It's okay, it's not a huge problem, but it's a habit we need to break. Opark probably had his own way of doing things, but it's definitely not necessary or correct to change such a minor, trivial thing after every single episode. In fact, I'm not convinced we need those fields at all, and once season four is finished I'd like us to have a major remodelling of all our infoboxes to make them A: more relevant, and B: more aesthetically pleasing. That's a major undertaking, however, and needs to be discussed properly with everyone when we're not all so busy.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:36, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
Do not spoil Theon's location or who are holding him. If you see, some of the men torturing him are dressed like ironborn and even have the Greyjoy sigil.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:38, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
: Sorry, didn't notice.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 05:43, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
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::I'm glad I know it now, for else I will do it next week all over again. Will Character infobox also lose Last episode? --[[User:Mesmermann|Mesmermann]] ([[User talk:Mesmermann|talk]]) 11:18, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
::We know were he is and who is keeping him captive, but there's a reason why the show doesn't reveal it yet, why the castle doesn't show in the map. Lets not ruin the surprise for those who haven't read the books.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:49, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Like I said, it will need to be discussed in depth once the season is over.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:57, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
== New quotes ==
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Wait, what change is being discussed her?
   
Nice quote for Locke. Just don't forget to remove that "quote needed" category when you add new quotes to articles.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 07:08, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
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I don't have anything particular in mind yet, just toying with some ideas. I'll be drawing up a sandbox soon, and do some experimenting with infobox codes.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 19:30, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
== My Editing got deleted ==
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==Season 2 recaps==
   
Hey, I edited the page on ' Brothers withough Banners" today and it has now been deleted. 
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We're too busy to get to them now, but please don't delete the Season 2 character pages (and restore the ones you've deleted). We do need to eventually integrate them back together -- basically all the work we wrote up during Season 2 got gutted out of the actual articles and put onto separate pages.
   
Why has this happened? 
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This will have to be on-hold for a while, probably until Season 4 is over. But we will eventually need to salvage anything useful from those pages before deleting them forever.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 18:34, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
[[Special:Contributions/124.171.23.225|124.171.23.225]] 11:31, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
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: Sorry, I jumped the gun a bit there. I've restored them.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 19:30, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
Vabz
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==New Fat Walda family tree image==
   
: I'm sorry but your editing simply wasn't up to scratch. I always strive to improve other people's... inadequate contributions, rather than reverting them point blank. However, the paragraph you added was so laden with spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors that it bordered on gibberish, and was necessary to remove it entirely. This wasn't done to offend you, but to maintain the high standards that people have come to expect from this wiki. I hope you understand.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:50, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Could you make one with the profile image?
   
==Ros picture?==
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: Done.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:00, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
Shouldn't we not update [[Ros]] picture with a picture from [[Valar Dohaeris]]. Her status is certainly changed where we first saw her as just a prostitute. [[User:Mesmermann|Mesmermann]] ([[User talk:Mesmermann|talk]]) 12:22, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
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== New navboxes ==
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I have created a few new navboxes. Please take a look at them and improve them any way you see fit.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:26, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Willem Lannister photo ==
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==Olenna Tyrell==
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A Wikia Contributor removed that information...
   
Great job on the Martyn Lannister screenshot. Please, give us Willem now.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 18:00, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
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​[http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Olenna_Tyrell?diff=prev&oldid=130468 ​Take a look here] -- [[User:The Snow Prince|The Snow Prince]] ([[User talk:The Snow Prince|talk]]) 11:17, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Maesters==
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: Yeah, I know, I checked. Don't worry, I wasn't suggesting it was you.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 12:17, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
It is impossible to be both a Maester of the Citadel and sworn to House Bolton. Maesters drop their House allegiances.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 04:12, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
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==Night's King/White Walker==
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Any link to an official source?
   
: Yeah, I know. Apart from the House Bolton one, those boxes are mainly just there for advertising purposes. I thought that users would be more likely to use them themselves if they saw them on someone else's page. --{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:42, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
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[http://i.imgur.com/G1pdcan.png Viewer's Guide]. Like I said on the talk-page, they've changed it now. Presumably because they realised how big of a spoiler it was, but there's always the possibility that it was just an error.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 20:07, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Though Maesters are not "sworn" that doesn't mean they are not above developing allegiances, for example: Pycelle, Luwin, Cressen--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 03:18, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:The folks at HBO like to mess everything up. You know how they call Guymon?: OLLY!--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 20:19, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::I don't think it an error with the Night's King because Bryan Cogman would not comment it in interviews and in Inside the Episode they only mention it as a part of the White Walkers.--[[User:Mesmermann|Mesmermann]] ([[User talk:Mesmermann|talk]]) 20:37, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Image hunt==
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:::With this last mess, and their terrible use of names (like Cersei Baratheon on the episode summary), I think those folks at the HBO website should be consulting ''us''.
   
Images of Karstark shields.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 03:18, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:::: Agreed, it is known! Mesmermann, you're probably right, but in the interests of remaining on HBO's good side we'll have to keep them separate for now.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:30, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Sure, I'll see what I can do.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 04:34, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
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==Guymon/Olly==
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[[Talk:Guymon]] What if it was the dad who was Guymon and he's Olly. --[[User:Mesmermann|Mesmermann]] ([[User talk:Mesmermann|talk]]) 21:05, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
:An easier one, when Liam Cunningham is credited, the Seaworth sigil appears. Just like he Tarly huntsmand appears next to John Bradley West's credit.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 02:21, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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I thought that as well when I saw the episode. I'll do some investigating.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:30, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
Great job! Now all we need is a better image of Shireen.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:37, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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==New cropped infobox character images==
   
== May I ask you a favor? ==
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I think that whenever we post a cropped image at the infobox we should also post the full, non-cropped version on the galleries.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 04:25, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
Can you create a gif image of my crown that is next to my signature? Right now it's pink and on a white background...but I want it like...transparent and have no idea how to do it. Know what I mean?? Thanks and congrats on new adminship...you deserved it! {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 20:40, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
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== Season 4 ==
   
: Done. I hope that's what you meant. And thanks:)--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 21:06, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
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The [[Season 4]] page has not been updated properly since the season started. As only admins can currently make edits to it is there any chance you'd be able to either update it or change the protection level? It's not like seasons 5 or 6 are protected. [[User:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=7 color="#D4A017">''R''</font><font face="Parchment" size=6 color="#D4A017">''achel''</font>]] [[User talk:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=6 color="#D4A017">''P''</font>]] 06:45, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
::Yes it is! :) It looks like a portion or little dot is remaining haha. It doesn't have to be that crown, I mean...if it's easier to find another pink crown to use we can go that route. I want it smooth like your sigil {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 21:13, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:I thought you'd like that! ;) Oh, okay.. any of these would work: [https://www.google.com/search?q=Pink+crown&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=iAR-Uf2_EsWLqgHA_YDQBA&biw=1252&bih=589&sei=jgR-UZfeNMjcrAHr9IHYDA PINK CROWNS]. QueenBuffy
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: Done.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 06:47, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
::AHH! I love my signature!! Thank you Bastard! lol {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 19:20, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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::Thanks. [[User:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=7 color="#D4A017">''R''</font><font face="Parchment" size=6 color="#D4A017">''achel''</font>]] [[User talk:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=6 color="#D4A017">''P''</font>]] 11:03, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Rheon==
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::: No worries.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:22, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
I agree about Rheon, just from the preview for episode 6. That's cold evil, when he's ''sarcastically apologizing'' while he's in the middle of torturing Theon. That whole "oh I'm sorry does that hurt? Don't worry, we're going to ransom you soon and set you free! (STAB) Oh no, I"m sorry, I had no idea running my knife into you was wrong, I've learned the error of my ways! (STAB). --[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 14:58, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
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==Catching up==
   
== Martell family tree ==
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I'm sorry I've fallen behind in the first half of the season: I had to finish my thesis and pass my Latin test to graduate. Against all odds I have succeeded, and I will be receiving my Master's degree in medieval History in two weeks. I've fallen very far behind though.
   
Doran Martell is mentioned in the blu-ray. Could you create one including Elia Martell and Trystane?--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 00:40, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
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The past two seasons I usually trailed off in the last half of the season because final papers got in the way; now the reverse will happen. Time has been freed up so I should be more on the ball for the second half. I ''did'' keep handwritten notes as I was watching them, just for anything important, and there are half a dozen other major updates I need to make -- at least I was able to get the front page redesign in. Still, I didn't want to just leave you guys abandoned on here without explanation.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 13:20, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Sure thing. I'll add it to the list.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 09:05, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
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==Userbox - atheist==
   
== Rachel P's signature ==
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I don't think "Atheist" is an in-universe term that they'd actually use. Wouldn't something like "This User doesn't believe in any gods" work better? Along similar lines, you actually made a good catch with the "gay" userbox: "Gay" and "homosexual" aren't terms that exist in Westeros (for that matter, these terms didn't exist in medieval Europe - "gay" meant "happy" a century ago, etc.) You did what I would have suggested: the phrase they used in-universe, which is "prefers the company of men".
   
This was helpful to me too. I came here because I was also impressed with your signature. I had a little (basic) understanding already of coding so made a couple of necessary adjustments to mine. Would you possibly be willing to help me add a green border around my name or to use a different sort of font, something more flowy/elegant. Feel free to say no/ignore. {{SUBST:User:Rachel_P/Signature}} 08:10, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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Speaking of which, while some think Brynden Tully never married because he secretly loved Minisa Tully but she was promised to his older brother, I have this mental image of how they'll reintroduce Brynden leading the Siege of Riverrun (which drags on in the background for like 2 novels) - something like he has this kick-ass fight scene fending off a Frey sortie over the walls, then the Riverrun garrison commiserates, and some young soldier says he doesn't want to die an unmarried virgin - talk then turns to "hey, Brynden, why didn't you ever get married?" -- and then very gruffly he says, "screw it. We're all going to die I might as well say it. It's because I do not enjoy the company of women." (to their surprise). The books never really confirmed that one way or another.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 13:20, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Or maybe I haven'y got it right yet. {{SUBST:User:Rachel_P/Signature}} 08:13, May 5, 2013 (UTC
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: Yeah, you're right. To be honest I wasn't really thinking about them in terms of "in or out of universe". I guess the obvious choice would be Salladhor Saan - "This user is an unbeliever", or something along those lines. I plan to do the other sexuality ones, I just need to find good screenshots of Ellaria and Oberyn. Let me know if there are any others you think would be worth while. Obviously all the houses will get one... eventually, other faiths, orders etc. I've made an age one to, but I'm going to alter it so it says - "this user is in his 23rd year", and so on.
   
:: Hi. I've moved this to a new section so it's more accessible. Sure, I'll help. You want something Tyrell-themed, I take it?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:30, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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::Brynden... if he is indeed gay, I sincerely hope that they manage to write it into the show somehow. Your scenario would be pretty much a dream come true.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:53, May 5, 2014 (UTC)\
   
:::That is indeed the idea. Thankyou. [[User:Rachel P|<font face="" color="#D4A017">''Rachel P''</font>]] [[File:Tyrell.JPG|26px|link=User talk:Rachel P]] 11:00, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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Well okay; the userboxes are fun but I don't really have any great ideas; I mean it was basic just to get started with "this user likes this House" and it just spreads from there.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 14:36, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::: There's one possibility. What do you think?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 11:57, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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:"This user enjoys watching" with Petyr's eye spying. "This user has been resurrected by the Lord of Light". "This user owes the Iron Bank of Braavos". "This user survived his wedding"--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 20:05, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::::Hmmm. Definitely better than what I have now, so thankyou. I'm just thinking maybe it's slightly illegible though on the P. Definitely the vibe I was thinking though. [[User:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=7 color="#D4A017">''Rachel P''</font>]] [[File:Tyrell.JPG|26px|link=User talk:Rachel P]] 12:25, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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:: Those are good ones!--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 20:14, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::::I've made a couple of adjustments and come up with something I'm quite happy with. Couldn't have done it without your help though as I didn't know how to code the font before. Also your help finding the right font. Thankyou so much. [[User:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=7 color="#D4A017">''R''</font><font face="Parchment" size=6 color="#D4A017">''achel''</font>]] [[User talk:Rachel P|<font face="Parchment" size=6 color="#D4A017">''P''</font>]] 13:40, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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==[[Template:Season Four Appearances]]==
   
::::::: You're welcome.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}}13:58, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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There is an error in [[Template:Season Four Appearances]]. Both [[The Laws of God and Men]] and [[Mockingbird]] is counted as episode six. Mockingbird is episode seven. I can't edit it because the page is locked. --[[User:Mesmermann|Mesmermann]] ([[User talk:Mesmermann|talk]]) 18:34, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
== can you fix this ==
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Thank you for brining this to my attention. I've changed the protection level so you can edit it.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 09:55, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
Some asshole F*cked up this page... I tried to fix it but it's all jacked. Can you try? [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Differences_between_books_and_TV_series Differences]. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 05:29, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
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== Joffrey's page ==
   
== House Clegane family tree ==
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Do you plan on changing the protection level back to normal? I'm just curious.. it seems like the vandalism problem probably ran it's course. [[User:M4ND0N|Mandon]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 05:15, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
Can you fix it? --[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:11, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
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: Agreed. I've changed the protection level so registered users can edit the page.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 09:55, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
: I can try. Do you know what's wrong with it?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:00, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
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== What D&D say about the Sept scene ==
   
== Infobox images ==
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I went looking for D&D's opinion about the Sept scene and found they seem to be disagreeing with director Graves. "''When Jaime forces himself on Cersei,''" Benioff says, "''It becomes a really horrifying scene because you see obviously Joffrey's body right there and you see that Cersei is resisting. She's saying 'no' and he's forcing himself on her. It was a really uncomfortable scene, and a really tricky scene to shoot.''" [http://youtu.be/lUScAGHJHR4]. That's all I can find from them. They refused to be interviewed by the New York Times for a May 2 story[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/03/arts/television/for-game-of-thrones-rising-unease-over-rapes-recurring-role.html?_r=0]. I'd be interested in reading what you have about their explicit denial that it was a rape scene. [[User:Alatari|Alatari]] ([[User talk:Alatari|talk]]) 12:19, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
If we get a chance of using a clean, sharp HBO promo image for the infobox picture, I think we should (regardless if Loras is tilted a way that looks him to be on a toliet) We've always used HBO promo shots when available, versus screencaps for infobox images.  Also, their "Heads" aren't cut off, the top of their hair is- even in the Loras image you like better, his hair is cut off. Updating and trying to use the most recent image for an infobox has always been something we've done. I reverted Robb and Loras' images, but I will admit Baelish's was a little too far cut off the top.{{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 17:30, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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: Ah, I must have mixed up D&D's comments with Graves'. I'm not sure who's take seniority in this matter then.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 12:30, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Sure, images should be updated every once in a while. However, I think we should simply use whichever image is best, regardless of the source. This seems to be the case so far; there's a good, healthy mix of promos and screenshots floating around. I don't think we should feel mandated to change a character's profile pic every time HBO release a new promo, as, unless the character has aged drastically (cough, Bran, cough), or undergone a drastic physical transformation - it's largely unnecessary.
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== Image (Free Folk) category ==
   
: Regarding Loras: The actual difference in quality is actually very small 404 × 639 vs 627 × 768. And, yes, the screenshot has a bit of hair cut off at the top; the promo, however, stops almost at his forehead. As for Loras'... posture... yes, it's a bit unfortunate, but his facial expression also looks somewhat... strained in that promo. Maybe that's just me.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 17:57, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm afraid its time to create an image category for, at least, the main characters and perhaps some recurring ones like Dontos Hollard or Locke.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 17:20, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Yup. I've been working on it this part month; breaking them down a little bit at a time. First into houses, and then eventually into individuals, locations and so on. Gods help us, it's going to take forever... but it ''needs'' to be done. Such vague, basic categories like "Character" are useless on a wiki this size.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 18:18, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
   
== File:Jaime-and-Qyburn-3x05.jpg ==
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==Needs cropping==
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This image you uploaded is in need of cropping [[:File:Ramsay-and-Myranda-402.jpg]]. Thanks! --[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 22:31, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
Do you have a non-cropped version?.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 03:08, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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==HD pictures!==
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Out of curiosity, where exactly do you find these HD profile pictures? – [[User:The Snow Prince|The Snow Prince]] ([[User talk:The Snow Prince|talk]]) 12:47, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
: I can get one, but to tell the truth there's nothing else there, except black wall. That's why I cropped it.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 12:19, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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[http://kissthemgoodbye.net/gameofthrones/ Here].--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 14:52, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Its a matter of format, to avoid those square images.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:49, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
::: Okay, sure.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 05:56, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you. -- (unsigned by [[User:Hanno7|Hanno7]])
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===New to images===
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''"Cropped slightly; good job though."'' - on the [[:File:Arya-Stark-Profile-HD.png|Arya-Stark-Profile-HD]] picture (file history section)
   
== I want your take on this ==
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I'm relatively new to adding images, so I'm thankful for this feedback. Noticed when you updated the photo that metadata was added, so I wonder, how was it added? And another question, what method did you use when you cropped the image? Appreciate any help! – [[User:The Snow Prince|The Snow Prince]] ([[User talk:The Snow Prince|talk]]) 18:04, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
So I am working on my Jaime/Cersei relationship page. You know, those incestual crazy kids I love so much. Any who, in the background/history section, would it be considered a book spoiler if I mention their history as children? I didn't think so, but thought I'd get your take on it. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 08:01, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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: No worries, and thank you; you've definitely got the right idea with that Arya image, it just needed to be a bit tighter. I'm afraid I don't now how meta data is added, but I crop and save images with GIMP2, so that may have something to do with it.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 19:13, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
: I think as long as it only contains info related to the show it should be fine. Then you can use the "in the books" section to highlight the differences, as long as you don't overtake ''A Storm of Swords''.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 08:19, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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::: Thanks for the information. It's getting late here in Sweden (10 PM), so I will make a test photo tomorrow and see how I do (with GIMP2). – [[User:The Snow Prince|The Snow Prince]] ([[User talk:The Snow Prince|talk]]) 20:15, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
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::Well, seeing as I have yet to read the books still (yeah yeah I know lol) It won't be too spoilerish. I will do the minimum of what I know and people can add what they wish as well :) Thanks! {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 08:25, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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== RE: HD Pictures==
   
:::It hasn't been clearly stated in the TV show just yet; I would put in one line that "they've been in the relationship since they were very young" just to emphasize for TV-first fans that this isn't a recent development; however the bulk of the details should probably go under "in the books".--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 16:41, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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​Sorry for the late reply. I'm definitely interested in improving character profile pictures. Unfortunately, I don't have much time just now to do some global changes in this section, but I think that it is possible for me to continue this work in the future. [[User:Thebegnob|Thebegnob]] ([[User talk:Thebegnob|talk]]) 13:18, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
== TB Wiki ==
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==Image (Subject)==
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I think it would be less confusing if it was "Images by subject".--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 17:52, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
Oh yes, I left TB Wiki frankly because I was exhausted, but mostly because I lost interest in the show. It just totally let me down and I lost respect for it  (went so far downhill for me, total 'camp fest'), therefore I really wouldn't be much help on the Wiki. I will say you get a LOT of spam and vandals on it, it is a wiki you really have to stay on your toes with. And stay clear of Lovely Crys... he is an imposter and basically like CestWhat, possibly worse. The Wikia Staff are aware of that user. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 17:12, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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Okay, will do.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 19:13, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Another image request===
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==​Disturbing comments==
For the sigil besides Jerome Flynn's credit. I guess its a flaming arrow since the chain was scrapped.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 05:39, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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"This video game sucks so much ass crack that I illiterately had to suck my own dick because of how porno this was. The end. P.S. I hate the King of the Hill. Penis." - Wikia contributor
   
: Done.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 05:56, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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"You inspired me to make my own porno film check it out guys. The video is Quest for CUM" - Wikia contributor
   
== Could you do me a favor kind ser ==
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Source: [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Gcheung28/Fan_vs._Critic:_Game_of_Thrones_-_Mockingbird Fan vs. Critics] (Mockingbird)
   
I need to get some sleep and for some reason HBO hasn't uploaded the trailer for Episode 8 yet. Can you keep an eye out for it here: [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUQzdMyuz0Lf4zo4uGcEujFw Uploaded GoT Vids] and put it on the main page once it is available. You may want to also put "Inside the Episode: The Bear and Maiden Fair" underneath it too, if they upload that as well. I'd appreciate it. Thanks :) {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 05:42, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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These contributors needs to be dealt with. I'm in no postion to make a call here, so could you take care of it?...or any other administrater who sees this? – [[User:The Snow Prince|The Snow Prince]] ([[User talk:The Snow Prince|talk]]) 16:47, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
: It's on HBO.com now.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 05:56, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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You should embrace the books more. I'm pretty sure people would like to know everything they can about it. Lighten up.
   
== IT'S MY NAMEDAY ==
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==Is, was, and always shall be, the Bastard of Bolton==
   
It is my nameday... and on this day I declare a Melee between The Boy who Cried Direwolf and Gonzalo84! BE ON WITH IT!!!!!!!! ;) {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 23:21, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
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So...will you do the honors and rename the Ramsay page?--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 02:56, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
: Happy nameday Your Grace. I'm afraid I don't fight in tournaments. When I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do!--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 07:57, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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: Done. Is the suggestion here that lords can legitimize their own bastards?--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 07:07, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Happy (belated) nameday, my Queen.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 16:19, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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::Well, no...I think that, as in the books, Roose asked the Lannisters to have Tommen sign a legitimization decree, and obtained it as a favor for his loyal service in the war. The TV show doesn't make clear the origins of the parchment that Roose hands Ramsay (I hope a screenshot of the prop turns up). It's not as if Roose has no input though; he had to ask for Ramsay to be legitimized (he apparently never even asked before, despite having no male heir for a few years). But let's just assume it's a royal decree requested by Roose and signed by Tommen. No need to assume lords can suddenly legitimize their own bastards.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 17:41, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Family trees ==
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GOOD NEWS: The Making Game of Thrones blog posted an image of the prop: http://wicnet.tumblr.com/post/87839764926/ramsays-note-of-legitimacy-roose-bestows-this
   
Could you please update the Stark and Lannister family trees to indicate Sansa and Tyrion's wedding?--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 16:19, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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It clearly bears the seal of King Tommen - it has the House Baratheon of King's Landing wax seal of a stag and lion.
   
== Another image request ==
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So it was a royal decree (which Roose requested) just as in the books.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 03:46, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
I don't know if you keep checking the Image Request forum so ?ill do it here. We need a better image of the second sons banner, and a small version for the character infoboxes.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 17:13, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
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==Timeline policy discussion==
   
: Sorry for the delayed response, I've had a very busy couple of weeks. Business as usual next ep.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 08:56, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
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Please give your views on this: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:GoTWiki_Small_Council_meeting_1:_Timeline_and_Current_Date
   
== Martell family tree ==
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--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 00:54, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
I already covered the Second Sons thing. Lets hope HBO releases a better image in the future. Anyways, I'd like to ask you to create a House Martell family tree, now that Oberyn has been announced for Season 4.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 16:29, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
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==Season 4 finale==
   
: It may have to wait until the off-season, as I'm incredibly busy with real-life stuff right now. I'll do my best.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 09:50, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
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The Season 4 finale is upon us. The internet is going to ''explode'' after this one, on par with or surpassing the Red Wedding or Ned Stark's death. Enough traffic that the site itself might slow to a crawl, much less all of the vandals or random anonymous editors who need to tinker with it.
   
== help with upload of photo? ==
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The hordes are closing in.
   
Sorry to bother you but could you check my uploaded dragon painting... I ended up in a merrygoround with it again, and I had only one chance to set the self, and one chance to write the copyright, I could not find it again. This could be my computer problem here, there seems to be no back button for me. thanks for your help, susan[[User:Susan Ae|Susan Ae]] ([[User talk:Susan Ae|talk]]) 02:56, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
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[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdNn5TZu6R8 This is where we hold them].
==​In the Wikia as it is in the Series==
 
   
When I say "As it is in the series it is in the Wikia, the nice people get axed while jerks like Jofrey strut around", it is a snide retort. When I say it is a pity that the adms of this wiki should be nicer to new users, or they are going to scare potential editors", I am being frank about my feelings.
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Remember this day.
   
​I did not think I needed to be sly about my comments, and just spoke my feelings. You guys are the ones who inflated the issue by erasing my blog. My first "complaint" was made as a joke. All that was necessary was for "Dragon Demands" to have replied that the robot that sends automatic welcome messages must be faulty and all would be ok.
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--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 00:52, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
​Instead he replied he does not have the time to be nice to newcomers, because he is too busy editing.
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: Sorry I wasn't able to get on earlier. I moved house at the weekend, and have just set my workstation up. No Stoneheart... this is understandable, as they need time to set up the fact that the Brotherhood is still harrying the Lannister forces, and that Beric is dead. This will probably be brought up at Cersei's small council meetings next year. I'm a little disappointed, but I guess they want to leave it as long as possible so it has the maximum shock value for the Unsullied. I felt Tywin's death was a bit ant-climatic. Where ''do'' whores go? We may never know... Apart from that, outstanding finale. Especially the Raven, and Stannis' arrival at the Wall.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 14:49, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
​I have a very poor opinion of people who do not have time for basic politeness - and I told him so. Politeness is the lubricant of social relationships and there should always be time for politeness. 
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Oh too many people complain about lack of Stoneheart. Yes, three years ago my mental dream for the Season 4 finale consisted of three things happening in rapid succession, and only the Tyrion one did (and without Tysha?), but there wasn't really enough time and I'd rather they give it the setup it's due.
   
Besides that, you are always way too busy because this wiki does not have many editors, and the wiki would have more editors if you were nicer to newcomers, so you are caught in a causal perpetual loop.
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Moreover, if you think about it, Benioff has openly lamented that if they're adapting "book 4" and "book 5" as one long novel...they have to cut it in half across two seasons, just as book 3 was. Thus the ending of "Season 5" will be the mid-points of books 4 and 5...and have no true climax whatsoever!
   
​Your loss, not mine. I have been busy hiking in Peru, so I could not be bothered with your petty wars - just like the whole war of the 5 kings is futile, because the real threat is coming from the North, as the White Walkers are up and about again.
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So what I'm starting to suspect is that they're holding off on Stoneheart and saving it for the Season 5 finale, as a makeshift "climax to give people something to talk about and tantalize them to return next season". And fine, I can see why they'd want to do that. I do hope we get to see the Siege of Riverrun next year, we had no Tullys this year. --[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 20:47, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
So keep slaving away, working too much because you don't enough editors because you keep axing nice people who try to help. It is your choice.
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== The Snow Prince for Admin ==
   
​By the way, I am traveling and posting from a public wifi, so don't even bother blocking this IP address. 
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I have started a vote on the matter right [http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:The_Snow_Prince_for_Admin here]. Your opinion would be welcome.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 20:18, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
​Tia Serena
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==New Image policy==
   
:Looks like we got us a Troll fellas. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 03:04, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm far behind: can you pleas summarize to me what the new image policy is?
   
:: Tia, you're no loss. I wouldn't dream of banning you're IP address; you're not worth it.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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Why has The Snow Prince been removing the season by season categories from images?--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 02:40, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
Tia...this isn't a forum. This wiki does not exist for people to have fun clicking the "edit" button and seeing the nonsense they can post. This wiki exists as an online encyclopedia about the TV series "Game of Thrones". Yes, it could be functionally run by maybe a dozen people (more or less the current number of regular editors). You are ''expendable''. You ''were not'' being "nice" - that has nothing to do with anything. Nor were you particularly trolling (though yelling at the Admins is a problem). You simply weren't contributing enough and when you were called out on this you lashed out at the Admins. We don't need to tolerate that. '''I AM NOT TRYING TO BE POLITE''': I have more respect for editors who argue with me on matters they disagree about but who MAKE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS. They get results. You made a small amount of edits to maybe four character articles....then put even more time into blogging about things. Vastly out of proportion to your work output.
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:Image categorized by episode, by character, by noble house... the image by season can be used for promotional "posed" images and to categorize each episode image category.--[[User:Gonzalo84|Gonzalo84]] ([[User talk:Gonzalo84|talk]]) 03:58, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
Regardless....for God's sake you don't have the mental where-withal to understand that wikis have automated welcome messages? OR, you honestly expect the admins and regulars on this wiki to take time away from heavy editing to FAWN over you and say "welcome"?
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: It's pretty straightforward. Basically we have a new licensing template that should be added to all HBO related images, including all screencaps from Game of Thrones, all promotional images and posters, and all images from the Histories and Lore featurettes; basically ''any'' GoT image. The new template provides all the necessary legal information, meaning we no longer have to write out tediously long "''this image is"'' summaries. Regarding the categories, me and The Snow Prince have been breaking them down into more specific sub-categories. Having a single "Character" category for all of the thousands of images on this site just isn't sustainable. Instead, we now have "'''Image (Tyrion Lannister)'''" and so on. [[Template:HBOImage|this]] is the new tag template. The hope here is that by simplifying the tagging process people will be more inclined to actually ''do it'', rather than just leaving it to us admins.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 13:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
What happened was that you joined the wiki, I left a note on your talk page about something you had edited, and you got....personally ''insulted'' that I didn't preface my note by saying "HELLO" and a giant welcome? For God's sake we get a dozen new minor editors every few days during the current season when the TV series is airing. Do you have any idea how ridiculous your conception of how wikis work is?
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== True Blood ==
   
What..."petty wars"? No one is arguing between two camps of different users. You're a new user who was surprised that a major wiki with dozens of editors didn't drop what it was doing to give you the big hello. You weren't particularly helping. Nor is your absence a particular loss. If anything, losing the distraction of your presence actually FREES UP MORE TIME to work on the wiki.
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Yeah, I'm not expecting to be all that entertained, but I think my boyfriend and I will watch it just because there isn't really anything else going on. lol. I won't be rushing to it though, just when we remember. Of all the shows that ever had potential and completely lost track, TB is the top of my list. Sad. Feels good to be back! I couldn't risk spoilers until I got to see the show myself...without internet and HBO, it gets rather difficult. ;) {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 14:40, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
"More busy because we need more editors and we're driving them off"? Quite the contrary: a handful of regulars know what to write about better than hundreds of ineffectual new editors who never try to learn; every idiot with a keyboard who wants to post spoiler information about the Red Wedding. We're quality control. You seriously think a mob of dozens of new editors would make sense of things? They'd just fight even more and create more "bureaucracy" and internal arguments. Better to have quality control, retaining editors who ''know what they are doing''. We're not "busy" because we don't have enough users: due to Season 3 airing, we got overburdened with such an inrush of new users (who don't stay around long) that we had to waste time copy-editing their work. DO YOU REALIZE that I personally wrote most of the episode summary sections for the first five episodes? Dozens of people didn't do that. I was busy with school in the second half of the season but again; under a dozen people actually write the vast majority of this. You honestly believe that we ''need'' an influx of new users? At best, it's a screening process for new regulars. We need high standards of quality content, and I'm not afraid of banning people ''for the greater good''. I'm unashamed of this...'''to the point that I've openly, symbolically mounted the heads of those I've banned on my userpage, as a warning.''' We don't need fussy noob editors like you who think you're god's gift to the wiki. You didn't do enough work, you didn't earn respect or prestige. Burden not Columbia with your chaff.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 21:07, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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== Protagonist ==
   
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Hi, I wanted to ask you about this whole "''the'' protagonist of the season" thing. It doesn't feel right call any character by that title. To cite Wikipedia, "In some novels, the protagonists may be impossible to identify, because multiple plots in the novel do not permit clear identification of one as the main plot". Sure, some main characters are more ''main'' then others, and one can make the argument that Ned is the protagonist of season 1, Tyrion season 2, but I would rather call them focal characters, not protagonists. Has someone in the television crew named this characters as the protagonists? --[[User:Martell|Martell]] ([[User talk:Martell|talk]]) 18:49, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
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:I usually use "one of the main protagonists" of a specific book/season, to refer to those who feature prominently at the moment.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 19:00, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Denoting The Deceased ==
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:: My view is that we shouldn't include OOU information in the intros at all. Stuff like the number of episodes, meaningless distinctions like "minor character", "recurring character" and so on should go.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 22:40, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
I've been browsing random pages, noticing the uniformity of the formatting.  A note on the recent Wiki activity page mentions looking as [[House Lannister]] as an example of the desired formatting.  I began looking at pages of the individual characters and noticed some differences as how deceased family members are listed.  If you compare [[Stannis Baratheon]] to [[Loras Tyrell]], you will see that they both list [[Renly Baratheon]]  as "Family".  But the way in which each page denotes Renly as being deceased is very different.  I don't know if this difference is by accident or by design, because Renly is not exactly "family" to Loras.  I'd prefer the brackets because they are concise, but many people may not understand the significance of them if they are not an accountant. [[User:The Mountain That Talks|The Mountain That Talks]] ([[User talk:The Mountain That Talks|talk]]) 14:04, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
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== Jaime/Cersei rape or not? ==
   
:I have changed the Loras infobox to say "deceased" in the format the Stannis one does. We actually also use the "Family" box to indicate long-term romantic relationships - not very often, but those which significantly affect the plot. Renly/Loras is actually one of the few stable romantic pairings on the show, particularly one of the few long-lasting relationships of a non-married couple (keeping in mind that nobles don't marry for love, but to secure marriage alliances). You won't see "lover" put in the Family infobox particularly often, but Renly/Loras was significant enough that it bears mentioning.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 17:13, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
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To avoid an all out edit war it's probably best to bring it up here.
   
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I'd like to point out that Alex Graves claiming it's not rape doesn't actually mean it wasn't rape. He was under a lot of pressure at the time given the controversy that started from that episode, and his personal views on what constitutes rape doesn't negate or change the definition of the word. The fact that Cersei didn't give Jaime consent [the contrary, actually] and he continued doing it means, within the confines of the literal definition of the word, that it was rape. That quote of Graves' actually sparked a great deal of controversy because of how ignorant he is... I don't think it should be used to decide whether or not that scene should be considered a rape scene since the man doesn't even understand what constitutes rape. [[User:M4ND0N|Mandon]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 23:11, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
   
I need you to chime in on Chrys' running debate of having the  Southern Novel books wiki merged onto the True Blood Wiki. They can debate all they want, but we will not be merging them. I need another admin to chime in and stand firm lol. This is an atrocious idea and will never be worth anyones time. This is exactly why the wiki staff didn't add the two to begin with I'm assuming. Thanks. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 11:55, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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: That scene was badly written and poorly filmed, no one is denying that. But ultimately, yes, Alex Graves saying it wasn't rape means it wasn't rape. As the director he understands what is going on in the minds of the characters better than we do, and as the director it is him we must defer to. It was in extremely poor taste for them to film a scene where Cersei appears to be raped, and then to turn around and say it wasn't, but as an encyclopaedia we have to take the bad with the good and record the writer's/director's intentions, not what ''we think'' happened.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 10:34, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
NEVERMIND.. lol I notice you did. Thanks. I went ahead and closed that debate. {{Template:Buffymybasset/sig}} 12:00, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
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::The thing this reminds me of is this BBCAmerica show about Ian Flemming, the real life James Bond spy/author of James Bond. There's this one scene with a cold open of him having rough sex with a woman in restraints - with the camera zoomed in and using harsh, quick cuts in such a way to intentionally present it to the audience that she is genuinely in distress and struggling....then the camera pulls out to a wideshot, and when they finish she starts giggling, and you are shown "oh, wait, they were just having really rough bondage sex games".....NONETHELESS, it was a disturbing cheap shot to, for about 30 seconds, imply to the audience that this was a rape scene of some kind.
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::Again...dear god, you never answer "maybe" like Benioff did when people ask "was that rape or wasn't it"? When is that EVER a grey area?!
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::Had Benioff and Weiss flat out said, "we changed it in the TV continuity so that Jaime officially raped Cersei"...I'd have completely given up on the show, as they'd completely derailed the characters. Given that they stated this was ''not'' what happened, and they have objective knowledge of events in the series, we just have to chalk it up to a really bizarre camera direction decision. And they think this makes them clever and edgy.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 19:59, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
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== Will Tudor's return ==
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He mentions in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuRJhQsCl0 that he'll be returning for season 5 - I'm not sure how to add it to the season 5 page though! [[User:CoyoteDork|CoyoteDork]] ([[User talk:CoyoteDork|talk]]) 19:49, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::Yes, Finn Jones apparently said in a separate interview that he will also have another "intimate" scene in Season 5 - I suppose with Olyver.
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::Check the notes and links I put in "[[Kissed by Fire]]" to Cogman's Westeros.org interview; their one complaint was that Loras seemed oddly over Renly if he was having sex with Olyver, and Cogman explained that he ''scripted'' more lines/scenes to make it clear that Loras is just "drowning his sorrows" with casual sex in an attempt to feel better - and it doesn't work, he's still miserable.
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::So my hope is that in Season 5, they get off of the "lets have Loras be campy" train, and get serious. What I would do, anyway, is have an Olyver/Loras sex scene...to segway into him looking really melancholy and emotionally unfulfilled afterwards, maybe look over Renly's old stuff in his room...then use this as a launching board for Loras to voluntarily want to join the Kingsguard. To explain why he'd want to join the Kingsguard. Then they could work in his famous line in the books, i.e. someone says "are you sure, Loras? The Kingsguard are forbidden to marry. You will never be allowed to love again." to which he says the whole "once the sun has set, no candle can replace it" line.....and maybe an added explanation that "if I'm a Kingsguard it also means I have an excuse to be following new-Queen Margaery around armed with a sword, guarding to make sure the Lannisters don't try anything underhanded with her."
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::: Thanks, I've added the source to the article. I'm personally hoping that Olyver will choose to accompany Ellaria back to Dorne.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 21:26, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::::People do tend to have a longer life expectancy there than in the capital.--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 20:42, July 24, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::: Will Tudor's confirmed he's got another scene with Finn next year, so ''that'' won't be happening. Shame. I really wanted him to take on the role of one of the Dornish characters from Feast. One of the "Queenmakers", mayhaps. Oh well, more dongs is good too I guess.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 07:08, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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...For the opening quotes in articles, don't we always bold the name of the character if it's their own article? That is, if it's a quote by Tyrion, heading the Tyrion page, don't we bold "Tyrion" in the attribution?--[[User:The Dragon Demands|The Dragon Demands]] ([[User talk:The Dragon Demands|talk]]) 20:42, July 24, 2014 (UTC)
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: Nope, I've no idea why people have been doing that, as it's completely out of format. Wikipedia's Manual of Style states that the subject of an article should only be bolded once, in the first sentence of the opening paragraph. There are exceptions, of course. "'''Sandor Clegane''', also nicknamed '''The Hound'''" is fine, because it's relevant, but doing it in the opening quote is pointless.--{{The Boy Who Cried Direwolf/signiture}} 07:08, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

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The Boy's Archives

Umber bannerEdit

Did you upload a new file?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 16:26, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Just a tighter, squared crop of the same image. It translates better in templates, such as the infobox, family trees, and userbox.--The-Boy 16:34, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Must Watch videosEdit

This has gone too far. Now the videos have nothing to do with GoT. And they show up above the "Read also" feature.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 16:28, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. We need to take action now, before this goes any further. I also want to find out if they are planning another "Create your own House" style contest like the one they forced on us last year. I'm not sure how you felt about it... personally I thought it was a fiasco, and another one should be avoided like the plague!--The-Boy 16:34, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
The "Create your own House" contest sucked. If they want something like that it should be limited to personal blogs.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:45, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to contact them to find out what their plans are regarding this.--The-Boy 19:19, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
I was pretty angry about that contest at the time, now I'm sort of ambivalent - they might as well have contests like that. People signed up for it that weren't regular contributors, though I guess their hope was that people would sign up for the contest and then stick around. Well, who doesn't like Heraldry?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:29, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
True, the intentions behind the contests are good; it's just the execution that leaves something to be desired...--The-Boy 11:42, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Did you get any answer about those damn "Must Watch" videos?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 23:51, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Nope, and they're cropping up again on category pages. I've also reached out to the guys on the Fallout Wiki about Google Chrome, but they haven't replied yet.--09:52, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

YoutubeEdit

The Wikia and Youtube people will yell at us if we directly link to Histories & Lore featurettes that are technically illegally uploaded. If nothing else, linking to them on your home page will increase the chances that official copyright people will notice that they've been loaded onto youtube, then force them to be removed, after which everyone can't enjoy them anymore. They're an open secret...but that only goes so far. I don't think you should risk it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:57, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

I hadn't considered that. Thanks for the heads up.--The-Boy 01:35, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Mormont UserboxEdit

Hey, who asked for a Mormont userbox? (always interesting when people pic a specific House to support).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:29, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, no one (sorry to disappoint). Ideally I'd like us to have userboxes for all the houses, great and small, and ones for all other orders, religions etc. We could have them all documented in a community page and link it into the welcome message somehow... tell people that they have to pick a house before they start editing. That's... the dream.--The-Boy 13:56, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
That's a good idea.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:31, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

The Dreadfort imageEdit

Where did it come from?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:12, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure. A new user uploaded this screenshot, and I cropped it from there.--The-Boy 17:17, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Kingsguard loyalty for usersEdit

The Kingsguard of the show does have a "symbol" of sorts.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:43, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

True, but it's kinda uncertain whether or not it's supposed to be an actual sigil, or just an adornment for their armour.--The-Boy 17:56, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Season 4 premiereEdit

Think of it: only 2 hours until Season 4 begins. Then the floodgates open. To say nothing of the horde of vandals, the massive amount of new work, we'll have dozens or even hundreds of random editors coming on making sloppy edits.

This will consume us, as you remember back in Season 3.

Good to be alongside you guys trying to handle this oncoming horde.

Have no illusions: not all of us will make it through premiere night alive.

The enemy is at the gates.

He who stands with me shall be my brother.

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:09, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

And so it begins.--The-Boy 04:05, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Dornish Sigils in "Two Swords"Edit

I needhelp identifying the last two sigils held by the Martell bannermen:

  • First pair: Dalt and Blackmont
  • Second pair: Manwoody and Qorgyle
  • Third pair: One with a checkered background and the other an orange banner: Jordayne and Uller?

In the books there are several houses present: Allyrion, Jordayne, UIler, Gargalen, Toland.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 05:02, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Just give me a moment to finishing watching the episode, and I'll go back and take a closer look.--The-Boy 05:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
The Book of Brothers will finally give us a good mini-icon for the Kingsguard.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 06:55, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
Got it; not... great, but definitely better than before. It confirms that it is a sigil, at least.--The-Boy 13:52, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
I concur with the flames of Uller, but the second to last one is very hard to make out, as the Qorgyle banner gets in the way. You're probably right, but it could also be Yronwood.--The-Boy 13:35, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Upcoming Community Videos Edit

Hi there!

I'm Brian and I work with Wikia. I wanted to touch base with you about a series of recurring videos we have planned for the Game of Thrones community, and maybe being a part of it. Would you mind dropping me a line on my wall or by email at brian@wikia-inc.com when you have a moment? Thanks!

--Brian@Wikia 18:03, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


DeletionEdit

Hi there I'm just wondering why you deleted the page I created? Pgardiner (talk) 10:55, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

The "Best of GOT" page? Because this isn't the place for such things. We're an encyclopaedia, not a gossip forum.--The-Boy 11:00, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
I thought wikia was an open site for creating pages based on a topic, do you have a book of rules somewhere this is only my second page and I'm a novice?Pgardiner (talk) 11:05, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Surely all these pages are 'just gossip'  can't say I can see a difference between what I created and this one for instance http://divergent.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Asnow89/FOURTRIS_Romance_%26_Dystopian_Chicago-_The_Cast_RespondsPgardiner (talk) 11:11, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
I thought wikia was different from wikipedia? Can you explain the difference ?Pgardiner (talk) 11:17, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Every wiki is different. We are not the Divergent Wiki, we are the Game of Thrones Wiki, and we have very high standards. At any rate, the page you linked to was a blog, not an article, which is what you created. No, people cannot create any page they want as long as it's about the subject. In that respect we are much more like Wikipedia than other wikis. Please take the time to look around the site to see what we are about, and read our Policies and guidelines before editing further. Thank you.--The-Boy 11:32, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, thanks for this, I've now had a look at guidelines, but I definitely didn't link to a blog?  I don't have a blog, I was just trying to create a GOT ranking page for people to vote for their favourite characters etc so we could see who was the best knight, or the best member of Night's watch and so on.  I love the series and can't wait for next episode.  I can see there are serious pages on your wiki for people who like to read a lot ..but can't there be some lighthearted fun ones too?82.12.173.23 11:55, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think you gave me much of a chance to develop the page or to see if anyone else wanted to join in editing it, admittedly it was a beginners page but that's no reason to delete it?82.12.173.23 11:59, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Please let this go. No, new users are not allowed to publish sloppy, half-finished "humour" articles, and then leave them to be developed later. Now, the wiki has been heavily vandalised in the past few hours, and I'm in the process of fixing the damage: You're distracting me.--The-Boy 12:14, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Well I'm clearly not a vandal and was planning to develop the article I created at the weekend, so why don't you deal with the real villains and put my page back up so I can keep editing, is there a way of saving without publishing?  I could try again and save without publishing until it was better... every one has to have a chance and I've done nothing to suggest I'd do anything horrible to your wiki....Pgardiner (talk) 12:21, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
The page will not be recreated. If you continue pushing this you will be blocked from editing. Let it go.--The-Boy 12:31, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Ok gone.  None taken. By the way there's an r missing in your profile it says when you 'fist signed up' ... assume you mean first?  I'm an editor by profession and these things have a tendency to leap out on me. 

...You're an editor who doesn't realize the distinction between articles of substance and needless fluff? I'm an editor too, of a sort, editing out non sequitor additions...(shrug)....ban this person at your discretion, Boy, I don't feel like getting worked up over it...--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:10, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

While I do need a new cloak... it may be a bit early to get the knifes out. I'll let her run round the woods for a bit, and we'll see what happens.--The-Boy 16:29, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Mace Tyrell imageEdit

I'd like to ask you to find a better quality one, if its not too much trouble.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:26, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

I can have a look, but to my knowledge that's the only in-universe one at the moment. We may have to wait until Sunday.--The-Boy 20:40, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Title blacklistEdit

Did the wikia folks tell you what's up with the title blacklist, I won't want anyone creating articles on the "two swords" until they are named in the show.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:14, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Hey. I did respond on your talk-page about this a while ago... you must not have seen. Long story short, there's nothing wrong with the blacklist; Greater good created the Jon Connington page, and, as as admin, the blacklist didn't prevent him from doing so. It only protects pages against creation by regular users. Have any other articles been created that shouldn't have?--The-Boy 13:54, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

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Okay, thank you for your help...Ashley Brown (talk) 09:32, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, It looks like I need some help with getting the information to show and I need help with identifying an episode for Arya Stark that I have for when she got older. Is it possible you could help? I also need help with the first picture of Sansa Stark with her mom. I can't seem to find what episode the photo is from? I know what season and episodes that the first photo of Arya, latest episode of Sansa, and both 1st and 4th season where Daenery's was featured.

DanyDEdit

I think you should state the reason that led to DanyD getting banned.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 23:11, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Nevermind, I checked and did it myself.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 23:15, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

CastportalEdit

I'm expanding the frontpage castportal to 5 x 5, and thus it will have enough space to include Roose and Ramsay. I'm pressed for time. I will load in placeholder images for both, but can you please find images for both of them, of your preference? Crucially, they need to be re-sized to be the same size as the other cast portal images.

Go to this page and edit in source mode: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Castportal

You just find the part where is says "Ramsay" or "Roose" and swap in the title of the photos when you're ready.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:55, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. Will do.--The-Boy 06:10, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorryEdit

I'm sorry, if I've done something wrong. I can see you redone last episode. I've been on this site since ending of season 2 (I think). I got told by Opark that "Last episode" gets updated after every episode. I've not  received any complaint about it, and it wasn't corrected either. It's a new thing? I sincerly  sorry for causing you that trouble it's that the case. Mesmermann (talk) 10:26, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

It's okay, it's not a huge problem, but it's a habit we need to break. Opark probably had his own way of doing things, but it's definitely not necessary or correct to change such a minor, trivial thing after every single episode. In fact, I'm not convinced we need those fields at all, and once season four is finished I'd like us to have a major remodelling of all our infoboxes to make them A: more relevant, and B: more aesthetically pleasing. That's a major undertaking, however, and needs to be discussed properly with everyone when we're not all so busy.--The-Boy 10:36, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
I'm glad I know it now, for else I will do it next week all over again. Will Character infobox also lose Last episode? --Mesmermann (talk) 11:18, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
Like I said, it will need to be discussed in depth once the season is over.--The-Boy 11:57, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

Wait, what change is being discussed her?

I don't have anything particular in mind yet, just toying with some ideas. I'll be drawing up a sandbox soon, and do some experimenting with infobox codes.--The-Boy 19:30, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

Season 2 recapsEdit

We're too busy to get to them now, but please don't delete the Season 2 character pages (and restore the ones you've deleted). We do need to eventually integrate them back together -- basically all the work we wrote up during Season 2 got gutted out of the actual articles and put onto separate pages.

This will have to be on-hold for a while, probably until Season 4 is over. But we will eventually need to salvage anything useful from those pages before deleting them forever.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:34, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I jumped the gun a bit there. I've restored them.--The-Boy 19:30, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

New Fat Walda family tree imageEdit

Could you make one with the profile image?

Done.--The-Boy 11:00, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

New navboxes Edit

I have created a few new navboxes. Please take a look at them and improve them any way you see fit.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 05:26, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Olenna TyrellEdit

A Wikia Contributor removed that information...

​Take a look here -- The Snow Prince (talk) 11:17, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, I checked. Don't worry, I wasn't suggesting it was you.--The-Boy 12:17, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Night's King/White WalkerEdit

Any link to an official source?

Viewer's Guide. Like I said on the talk-page, they've changed it now. Presumably because they realised how big of a spoiler it was, but there's always the possibility that it was just an error.--The-Boy 20:07, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

The folks at HBO like to mess everything up. You know how they call Guymon?: OLLY!--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:19, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think it an error with the Night's King because Bryan Cogman would not comment it in interviews and in Inside the Episode they only mention it as a part of the White Walkers.--Mesmermann (talk) 20:37, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
With this last mess, and their terrible use of names (like Cersei Baratheon on the episode summary), I think those folks at the HBO website should be consulting us.
Agreed, it is known! Mesmermann, you're probably right, but in the interests of remaining on HBO's good side we'll have to keep them separate for now.--The-Boy 13:30, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Guymon/OllyEdit

Talk:Guymon What if it was the dad who was Guymon and he's Olly. --Mesmermann (talk) 21:05, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

I thought that as well when I saw the episode. I'll do some investigating.--The-Boy 13:30, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

New cropped infobox character imagesEdit

I think that whenever we post a cropped image at the infobox we should also post the full, non-cropped version on the galleries.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 04:25, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

Season 4 Edit

The Season 4 page has not been updated properly since the season started. As only admins can currently make edits to it is there any chance you'd be able to either update it or change the protection level? It's not like seasons 5 or 6 are protected. Rachel P 06:45, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Done.--The-Boy 06:47, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Rachel P 11:03, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
No worries.--The-Boy 11:22, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Catching upEdit

I'm sorry I've fallen behind in the first half of the season: I had to finish my thesis and pass my Latin test to graduate. Against all odds I have succeeded, and I will be receiving my Master's degree in medieval History in two weeks. I've fallen very far behind though.

The past two seasons I usually trailed off in the last half of the season because final papers got in the way; now the reverse will happen. Time has been freed up so I should be more on the ball for the second half. I did keep handwritten notes as I was watching them, just for anything important, and there are half a dozen other major updates I need to make -- at least I was able to get the front page redesign in. Still, I didn't want to just leave you guys abandoned on here without explanation.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:20, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Userbox - atheistEdit

I don't think "Atheist" is an in-universe term that they'd actually use. Wouldn't something like "This User doesn't believe in any gods" work better? Along similar lines, you actually made a good catch with the "gay" userbox: "Gay" and "homosexual" aren't terms that exist in Westeros (for that matter, these terms didn't exist in medieval Europe - "gay" meant "happy" a century ago, etc.) You did what I would have suggested: the phrase they used in-universe, which is "prefers the company of men".

Speaking of which, while some think Brynden Tully never married because he secretly loved Minisa Tully but she was promised to his older brother, I have this mental image of how they'll reintroduce Brynden leading the Siege of Riverrun (which drags on in the background for like 2 novels) - something like he has this kick-ass fight scene fending off a Frey sortie over the walls, then the Riverrun garrison commiserates, and some young soldier says he doesn't want to die an unmarried virgin - talk then turns to "hey, Brynden, why didn't you ever get married?" -- and then very gruffly he says, "screw it. We're all going to die I might as well say it. It's because I do not enjoy the company of women." (to their surprise). The books never really confirmed that one way or another.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:20, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. To be honest I wasn't really thinking about them in terms of "in or out of universe". I guess the obvious choice would be Salladhor Saan - "This user is an unbeliever", or something along those lines. I plan to do the other sexuality ones, I just need to find good screenshots of Ellaria and Oberyn. Let me know if there are any others you think would be worth while. Obviously all the houses will get one... eventually, other faiths, orders etc. I've made an age one to, but I'm going to alter it so it says - "this user is in his 23rd year", and so on.
Brynden... if he is indeed gay, I sincerely hope that they manage to write it into the show somehow. Your scenario would be pretty much a dream come true.--The-Boy 13:53, May 5, 2014 (UTC)\

Well okay; the userboxes are fun but I don't really have any great ideas; I mean it was basic just to get started with "this user likes this House" and it just spreads from there.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 14:36, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

"This user enjoys watching" with Petyr's eye spying. "This user has been resurrected by the Lord of Light". "This user owes the Iron Bank of Braavos". "This user survived his wedding"--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:05, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
Those are good ones!--The-Boy 20:14, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Template:Season Four AppearancesEdit

There is an error in Template:Season Four Appearances. Both The Laws of God and Men and Mockingbird is counted as episode six. Mockingbird is episode seven. I can't edit it because the page is locked. --Mesmermann (talk) 18:34, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for brining this to my attention. I've changed the protection level so you can edit it.--The-Boy 09:55, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Joffrey's page Edit

Do you plan on changing the protection level back to normal? I'm just curious.. it seems like the vandalism problem probably ran it's course. Mandon (talk) 05:15, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. I've changed the protection level so registered users can edit the page.--The-Boy 09:55, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

What D&D say about the Sept scene Edit

I went looking for D&D's opinion about the Sept scene and found they seem to be disagreeing with director Graves. "When Jaime forces himself on Cersei," Benioff says, "It becomes a really horrifying scene because you see obviously Joffrey's body right there and you see that Cersei is resisting. She's saying 'no' and he's forcing himself on her. It was a really uncomfortable scene, and a really tricky scene to shoot." [1]. That's all I can find from them. They refused to be interviewed by the New York Times for a May 2 story[2]. I'd be interested in reading what you have about their explicit denial that it was a rape scene. Alatari (talk) 12:19, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I must have mixed up D&D's comments with Graves'. I'm not sure who's take seniority in this matter then.--The-Boy 12:30, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Image (Free Folk) category Edit

I'm afraid its time to create an image category for, at least, the main characters and perhaps some recurring ones like Dontos Hollard or Locke.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:20, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yup. I've been working on it this part month; breaking them down a little bit at a time. First into houses, and then eventually into individuals, locations and so on. Gods help us, it's going to take forever... but it needs to be done. Such vague, basic categories like "Character" are useless on a wiki this size.--The-Boy 18:18, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Needs croppingEdit

This image you uploaded is in need of cropping File:Ramsay-and-Myranda-402.jpg. Thanks! --Gonzalo84 (talk) 22:31, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

HD pictures!Edit

Out of curiosity, where exactly do you find these HD profile pictures? – The Snow Prince (talk) 12:47, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Here.--The-Boy 14:52, May 15, 2014 (UTC)


Thank you. -- (unsigned by Hanno7)

New to imagesEdit

"Cropped slightly; good job though." - on the Arya-Stark-Profile-HD picture (file history section)

I'm relatively new to adding images, so I'm thankful for this feedback. Noticed when you updated the photo that metadata was added, so I wonder, how was it added? And another question, what method did you use when you cropped the image? Appreciate any help! – The Snow Prince (talk) 18:04, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

No worries, and thank you; you've definitely got the right idea with that Arya image, it just needed to be a bit tighter. I'm afraid I don't now how meta data is added, but I crop and save images with GIMP2, so that may have something to do with it.--The-Boy 19:13, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. It's getting late here in Sweden (10 PM), so I will make a test photo tomorrow and see how I do (with GIMP2). – The Snow Prince (talk) 20:15, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

RE: HD PicturesEdit

​Sorry for the late reply. I'm definitely interested in improving character profile pictures. Unfortunately, I don't have much time just now to do some global changes in this section, but I think that it is possible for me to continue this work in the future. Thebegnob (talk) 13:18, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Image (Subject)Edit

I think it would be less confusing if it was "Images by subject".--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:52, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, will do.--The-Boy 19:13, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

​Disturbing commentsEdit

"This video game sucks so much ass crack that I illiterately had to suck my own dick because of how porno this was. The end. P.S. I hate the King of the Hill. Penis." - Wikia contributor

"You inspired me to make my own porno film check it out guys. The video is Quest for CUM" - Wikia contributor

Source: Fan vs. Critics (Mockingbird)

These contributors needs to be dealt with. I'm in no postion to make a call here, so could you take care of it?...or any other administrater who sees this? – The Snow Prince (talk) 16:47, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

You should embrace the books more. I'm pretty sure people would like to know everything they can about it. Lighten up.

Is, was, and always shall be, the Bastard of BoltonEdit

So...will you do the honors and rename the Ramsay page?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:56, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

Done. Is the suggestion here that lords can legitimize their own bastards?--The-Boy 07:07, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
Well, no...I think that, as in the books, Roose asked the Lannisters to have Tommen sign a legitimization decree, and obtained it as a favor for his loyal service in the war. The TV show doesn't make clear the origins of the parchment that Roose hands Ramsay (I hope a screenshot of the prop turns up). It's not as if Roose has no input though; he had to ask for Ramsay to be legitimized (he apparently never even asked before, despite having no male heir for a few years). But let's just assume it's a royal decree requested by Roose and signed by Tommen. No need to assume lords can suddenly legitimize their own bastards.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:41, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

GOOD NEWS: The Making Game of Thrones blog posted an image of the prop: http://wicnet.tumblr.com/post/87839764926/ramsays-note-of-legitimacy-roose-bestows-this

It clearly bears the seal of King Tommen - it has the House Baratheon of King's Landing wax seal of a stag and lion.

So it was a royal decree (which Roose requested) just as in the books.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:46, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Timeline policy discussionEdit

Please give your views on this: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:GoTWiki_Small_Council_meeting_1:_Timeline_and_Current_Date

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:54, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Season 4 finaleEdit

The Season 4 finale is upon us. The internet is going to explode after this one, on par with or surpassing the Red Wedding or Ned Stark's death. Enough traffic that the site itself might slow to a crawl, much less all of the vandals or random anonymous editors who need to tinker with it.

The hordes are closing in.

This is where we hold them.

Remember this day.

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:52, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I wasn't able to get on earlier. I moved house at the weekend, and have just set my workstation up. No Stoneheart... this is understandable, as they need time to set up the fact that the Brotherhood is still harrying the Lannister forces, and that Beric is dead. This will probably be brought up at Cersei's small council meetings next year. I'm a little disappointed, but I guess they want to leave it as long as possible so it has the maximum shock value for the Unsullied. I felt Tywin's death was a bit ant-climatic. Where do whores go? We may never know... Apart from that, outstanding finale. Especially the Raven, and Stannis' arrival at the Wall.--The-Boy 14:49, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Oh too many people complain about lack of Stoneheart. Yes, three years ago my mental dream for the Season 4 finale consisted of three things happening in rapid succession, and only the Tyrion one did (and without Tysha?), but there wasn't really enough time and I'd rather they give it the setup it's due.

Moreover, if you think about it, Benioff has openly lamented that if they're adapting "book 4" and "book 5" as one long novel...they have to cut it in half across two seasons, just as book 3 was. Thus the ending of "Season 5" will be the mid-points of books 4 and 5...and have no true climax whatsoever!

So what I'm starting to suspect is that they're holding off on Stoneheart and saving it for the Season 5 finale, as a makeshift "climax to give people something to talk about and tantalize them to return next season". And fine, I can see why they'd want to do that. I do hope we get to see the Siege of Riverrun next year, we had no Tullys this year. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 20:47, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

The Snow Prince for Admin Edit

I have started a vote on the matter right here. Your opinion would be welcome.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:18, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

New Image policyEdit

I'm far behind: can you pleas summarize to me what the new image policy is?

Why has The Snow Prince been removing the season by season categories from images?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:40, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Image categorized by episode, by character, by noble house... the image by season can be used for promotional "posed" images and to categorize each episode image category.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 03:58, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
It's pretty straightforward. Basically we have a new licensing template that should be added to all HBO related images, including all screencaps from Game of Thrones, all promotional images and posters, and all images from the Histories and Lore featurettes; basically any GoT image. The new template provides all the necessary legal information, meaning we no longer have to write out tediously long "this image is" summaries. Regarding the categories, me and The Snow Prince have been breaking them down into more specific sub-categories. Having a single "Character" category for all of the thousands of images on this site just isn't sustainable. Instead, we now have "Image (Tyrion Lannister)" and so on. this is the new tag template. The hope here is that by simplifying the tagging process people will be more inclined to actually do it, rather than just leaving it to us admins.--The-Boy 13:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

True Blood Edit

Yeah, I'm not expecting to be all that entertained, but I think my boyfriend and I will watch it just because there isn't really anything else going on. lol. I won't be rushing to it though, just when we remember. Of all the shows that ever had potential and completely lost track, TB is the top of my list. Sad. Feels good to be back! I couldn't risk spoilers until I got to see the show myself...without internet and HBO, it gets rather difficult. ;) QueenBuffyPink crown 14:40, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Protagonist Edit

Hi, I wanted to ask you about this whole "the protagonist of the season" thing. It doesn't feel right call any character by that title. To cite Wikipedia, "In some novels, the protagonists may be impossible to identify, because multiple plots in the novel do not permit clear identification of one as the main plot". Sure, some main characters are more main then others, and one can make the argument that Ned is the protagonist of season 1, Tyrion season 2, but I would rather call them focal characters, not protagonists. Has someone in the television crew named this characters as the protagonists? --Martell (talk) 18:49, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

I usually use "one of the main protagonists" of a specific book/season, to refer to those who feature prominently at the moment.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:00, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
My view is that we shouldn't include OOU information in the intros at all. Stuff like the number of episodes, meaningless distinctions like "minor character", "recurring character" and so on should go.--The-Boy 22:40, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Jaime/Cersei rape or not? Edit

To avoid an all out edit war it's probably best to bring it up here.

I'd like to point out that Alex Graves claiming it's not rape doesn't actually mean it wasn't rape. He was under a lot of pressure at the time given the controversy that started from that episode, and his personal views on what constitutes rape doesn't negate or change the definition of the word. The fact that Cersei didn't give Jaime consent [the contrary, actually] and he continued doing it means, within the confines of the literal definition of the word, that it was rape. That quote of Graves' actually sparked a great deal of controversy because of how ignorant he is... I don't think it should be used to decide whether or not that scene should be considered a rape scene since the man doesn't even understand what constitutes rape. Mandon (talk) 23:11, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

That scene was badly written and poorly filmed, no one is denying that. But ultimately, yes, Alex Graves saying it wasn't rape means it wasn't rape. As the director he understands what is going on in the minds of the characters better than we do, and as the director it is him we must defer to. It was in extremely poor taste for them to film a scene where Cersei appears to be raped, and then to turn around and say it wasn't, but as an encyclopaedia we have to take the bad with the good and record the writer's/director's intentions, not what we think happened.--The-Boy 10:34, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
The thing this reminds me of is this BBCAmerica show about Ian Flemming, the real life James Bond spy/author of James Bond. There's this one scene with a cold open of him having rough sex with a woman in restraints - with the camera zoomed in and using harsh, quick cuts in such a way to intentionally present it to the audience that she is genuinely in distress and struggling....then the camera pulls out to a wideshot, and when they finish she starts giggling, and you are shown "oh, wait, they were just having really rough bondage sex games".....NONETHELESS, it was a disturbing cheap shot to, for about 30 seconds, imply to the audience that this was a rape scene of some kind.
Again...dear god, you never answer "maybe" like Benioff did when people ask "was that rape or wasn't it"? When is that EVER a grey area?!
Had Benioff and Weiss flat out said, "we changed it in the TV continuity so that Jaime officially raped Cersei"...I'd have completely given up on the show, as they'd completely derailed the characters. Given that they stated this was not what happened, and they have objective knowledge of events in the series, we just have to chalk it up to a really bizarre camera direction decision. And they think this makes them clever and edgy.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:59, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Will Tudor's return Edit

He mentions in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuRJhQsCl0 that he'll be returning for season 5 - I'm not sure how to add it to the season 5 page though! CoyoteDork (talk) 19:49, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Finn Jones apparently said in a separate interview that he will also have another "intimate" scene in Season 5 - I suppose with Olyver.
Check the notes and links I put in "Kissed by Fire" to Cogman's Westeros.org interview; their one complaint was that Loras seemed oddly over Renly if he was having sex with Olyver, and Cogman explained that he scripted more lines/scenes to make it clear that Loras is just "drowning his sorrows" with casual sex in an attempt to feel better - and it doesn't work, he's still miserable.
So my hope is that in Season 5, they get off of the "lets have Loras be campy" train, and get serious. What I would do, anyway, is have an Olyver/Loras sex scene...to segway into him looking really melancholy and emotionally unfulfilled afterwards, maybe look over Renly's old stuff in his room...then use this as a launching board for Loras to voluntarily want to join the Kingsguard. To explain why he'd want to join the Kingsguard. Then they could work in his famous line in the books, i.e. someone says "are you sure, Loras? The Kingsguard are forbidden to marry. You will never be allowed to love again." to which he says the whole "once the sun has set, no candle can replace it" line.....and maybe an added explanation that "if I'm a Kingsguard it also means I have an excuse to be following new-Queen Margaery around armed with a sword, guarding to make sure the Lannisters don't try anything underhanded with her."
Or, they might just be randomly throwing some junk scenes in with no attention to character arcs and progression. Crud.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 20:04, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I've added the source to the article. I'm personally hoping that Olyver will choose to accompany Ellaria back to Dorne.--The-Boy 21:26, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
People do tend to have a longer life expectancy there than in the capital.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 20:42, July 24, 2014 (UTC)
Will Tudor's confirmed he's got another scene with Finn next year, so that won't be happening. Shame. I really wanted him to take on the role of one of the Dornish characters from Feast. One of the "Queenmakers", mayhaps. Oh well, more dongs is good too I guess.--The-Boy 07:08, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Names in intro quotesEdit

...For the opening quotes in articles, don't we always bold the name of the character if it's their own article? That is, if it's a quote by Tyrion, heading the Tyrion page, don't we bold "Tyrion" in the attribution?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 20:42, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Nope, I've no idea why people have been doing that, as it's completely out of format. Wikipedia's Manual of Style states that the subject of an article should only be bolded once, in the first sentence of the opening paragraph. There are exceptions, of course. "Sandor Clegane, also nicknamed The Hound" is fine, because it's relevant, but doing it in the opening quote is pointless.--The-Boy 07:08, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

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